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All Things Fiero => Club News => Topic started by: Fierofool on February 19, 2012, 08:49:06 am
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The 17th Annual Run For The Hills will again be in the beautiful twisty mountain roads of North Carolina and Tennessee.
On the itinerary and the main focus of the run is The Dragon at Deals Gap.
Make your plans now to join us in one of the most exciting of Fiero events.
Event date is September 14, 15, and 16. As always, we gather on the first day, then Run For The Hills on the 2nd day and return home on the 3rd day.
Lodging is yet to be determined, but we will update and post info to the forum as it becomes available.
If you have questions, ask on the forum or email us at GeorgiaFieroClub@Gmail.Com Subject: Run For The Hills Q & A
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Pat's Birthday is Sept. 15th. I always let him do the run alone as his present.
HE WILL BE 66 ! ! ! !
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Pat's Birthday is Sept. 15th. I always let him do the run alone as his present.
HE WILL BE 66 ! ! ! !
cool. So we can have a birthday cake on the 15th. What a fabulous weekend ;)
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count me in! should have my swap done by then! Cant wait!!!
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Pat's Birthday is Sept. 15th. I always let him do the run alone as his present.
HE WILL BE 66 ! ! ! !
cool. So we can have a birthday cake on the 15th. What a fabulous weekend ;)
If you remember Pat had his Heart Attack last year on 9-11 and couldn't go.
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Anyone feel like a RFTH 17 scouting trip on April 21?
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If we have the Phoenix back by then - absolutely!
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I will talk to my new boss about the 21st but they have made the schedule for that week all ready so more than likley i wont be able to go :( unless tall did it later then I could plan to go out there with you
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Anyone feel like a RFTH 17 scouting trip on April 21?
Right now I'm scheduled to be in Florida 19-21 for the inaugural presentation of a scholarship in the name of a friend of mine who passed away last year...
FGTB
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i should be able to go
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Chaz, it will be an all day trip. We have to go all the way up to the northeast corner of Georgia, through western North Carolina, and into Tennessee, heading toward Maryville, Tn. from Franklin, NC.
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yeah i know just like i said wont be able to make it the 21st just cause of my new job...
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There will be multiple trips required. I usually scout a section at a time, then put it together for a couple of trial runs. Maybe one of those trips will fit into your schedule.
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yeah that would be great :) just let me know the dates when you have them and i will work them in :)
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I'm moving the scouting run talk to a new thread.
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The first donations for the raffle have already been dropped off.
Thank you 88_4mula Kevin!!!
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Hats and Visors! Cool!
Which begs the question...
If your a supervisor, and get promoted, does that make you a superdupervisor? Just curious. :p
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The next box of donations has arrived. From The Fiero Store.
I'll get some pics up later on.
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Here's what Matt from TFS sent us:
Gift Certificate
Hanley's Long Sleve w/logo (L)
Shot Glass w/logo
Christmas Ornament w/logo
Beautiful Leather Bound 1984-1988 Fiero Press Guide
TFS Calendars

Thanks Matt!
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Just a glimpse of the planned design for this year's event Tshirt. We commissioned this painting and once we've completed our artwork for the shirt, the painting will be on the auction block.

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VERY NICE!
Can't wait to get one!
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VERY cool guys! i cant wait to get one to!
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All 4 of my grandchildren think the T-shirts will be very cool !
However they said it would be cooler if it had smoke coming out of its nose.
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Although I have that vice, I wouldn't want anyone saying that the shirt design 'promotes' smoking.
You know how things are messed up these days. :o
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I have never been known for being P.C.
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Here it is. The final design that will be on the Tshirts. We will be staying in Franklin, NC as our base and traveling on some very exciting roads on the way to and from The Dragon. Hotel info and Tshirt prices to come.
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When can we order one? $25 like usual?
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I just sent the artwork to the printer today and asked for prices. I expect them to stay as they were last year, but I won't put a price on them until I know for sure. Last year they were $25 for S-XL $26 for 2X and $27 for 3X. As soon as I know a price we'll get a link set up in the Club Merchandise section so you can place your orders.
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I called the Fun Factory and the Microtel again today.
I actually got a call back from the hotel's GM telling me she got all my previous messages and she would have room prices for me by COB today. (When is a hotel's COB???)
Still waiting on the Fun Factory to get back with me but I'm on it!
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I Think The Fun Factory Has Private Dinning Areas For Large Groups.
If I Remember Correctly They Just Need Advanced Notice Of How Many And When So They Will Have Extra Staff On Hand.
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OK, I just got the hotel room rates for the event.
Our rate $62.95 plus tax as opposed to $78.00 plus tax
Event hotel:
Microtel Inn & Suites
81 Allman Drive
Franklin, NC 28734
Reservations: 888.403.1700
When calling to reserve a room give the following code: Georgia Fiero Club
This rate is only valid until August 16th. Sorry, that is the only deal they were willing to make.
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I Think The Fun Factory Has Private Dinning Areas For Large Groups.
If I Remember Correctly They Just Need Advanced Notice Of How Many And When So They Will Have Extra Staff On Hand.
The two years that I worked with The Fun Factory, I needed to make reservations for a given time with an idea of how many persons, and on the morning of the event, I had to call them and give them an exact number of persons who would be dining so they could have enough staff on hand.
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Tshirts are now available for ordering. See the Club Merchandise section for ordering information and prices.
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Pat, how many event tshirts have been ordered so far? I haven't received any notifications.
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You should show an order for two shirts now...one XL, one 3X.
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With my novice-status at handling a manual through twisties, this run feels a little out of my depth. However Cowspatoot made a comment about wanting to drive my Fiero through it, so I might ride along.
If that pans out (and is not superseded by the conversion to EFI), then it'll be good to see you guys again!
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Trinten, the videos posted were of those who wished to be a little aggressive at that time. Everyone is expected to drive at their own comfortable pace. We always ask those that want to test their skills to take the lead and those who prefer to take in a little more of the scenery to bring up the rear. It isn't a race, but an opportunity for Fiero people to enjoy a weekend in the mountains and if they desire, to test their driving skills and their vehicle's handling. We will have a Saturn SUV service vehicle following us, so you're welcome to tag along with him and others.
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OK, I just got the hotel room rates for the event.
Our rate $62.95 plus tax as opposed to $78.00 plus tax
Event hotel:
Microtel Inn & Suites
81 Allman Drive
Franklin, NC 28734
Reservations: 888.403.1700
When calling to reserve a room give the following code: Georgia Fiero Club
This rate is only valid until August 16th. Sorry, that is the only deal they were willing to make.
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When I reserved my room I asked the manager why we couldn't get the rates up until 2 weeks before the event as we had in the past. She said that the hotel is now corporate owned and their policy is 30 days prior to the reservation for blocked rooms.
She said that if we would call back a day or two before August 16 that she would see if she could release some more rooms at our discount rate. She also said that there were 27 rooms reserved at our rate for Sept. 14 and 15, leaving on the 16th, but she couldn't identify if they were all of our group.
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I've called several times now for the manager and keep getting told she's not available, but will call me back.
Still waiting.
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They actually called us back and left a VM;
The lady on the phone said: "Sure, the GA Fiero Club can reserve more rooms, no problem."
I'll call the manager again on Monday and try to get a final confirmation. She is never available on the weekends.
Gotta love those kind of hours as a GM! ;D
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If you haven't ordered your event Tshirt, you need to git'er'done. I'll be sending in the order on Sept. 1. No shirts will be offered for sale at the event.
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Grrr no money to order one :'( all my money has gone into the new engine >.<
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Rooms booked, shirts ordered, ready to roll!!
BTW: Rates are still in affect @ $62.99, just give the code "Georgia Fiero Club"
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A NOTE FOR ANYONE PLANNING TO ARRIVE ON SATURDAY MORNING. THE DRIVERS' MEETING WILL BE HELD AT 8AM AND WE WILL PULL OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARD.
IN THE PAST WE HAVE WAITED UNTIL 9AM TO PULL OUT, BUT THIS IS A FULL DAY AND IN ORDER TO BE SURE EVERYONE GETS BACK FOR THE EVENING FESTIVITIES, WE WILL NOT WAIT UNTIL 9.
EVENT ACTIVITIES AND ROUTE INFORMATION FOLDERS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED ON FRIDAY SO THOSE USING GPS CAN ENTER THEIR INFO AND SO THAT OTHERS CAN REVIEW IT PRIOR TO THE DRIVERS' MEETING.
EDITED TO ADD THAT THE DRIVERS' MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE FUN FACTORY PARKING LOT WHICH IS LOCATED BEHIND AUTOZONE AND THE HOTEL.
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Are there any plans to caravan up on Friday?
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sadly i still have to work this Friday at my first job but, me and Jen have gotten are reservations and plan to be up there Friday night since i still have to work.
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i plan to be ther friday. what time should i shoot for getting there?
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Usually you can't check in until around 3pm, but we've always gotten there early at every event. Someone from the club should be there to greet those who arrive early.
It depends upon how anxious I get. I plan to be there around 1, but if the bug keeps biting hard enough, it may be earlier than that.
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Even if you can't check in early there should be plenty to do at the Fun Factory.
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Are there any plans to caravan up on Friday?
Anne and my place, Friday between 11:30 and 12:00. Estimated departure 1 PM
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Have arrangements been made for our evening dinner at The Boiler Room? We need to get the time included in our information packet.
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Have arrangements been made for our evening dinner at The Boiler Room? We need to get the time included in our information packet.
Not the Boiler Room, as that is the restaurant attached to the Fun Factory, and they require payment for their room if it were to be reserved for an event.
I had us set up inside the actual Fun Factory, unless majority decides to take it into the restaurant??
If all agree to eat dinner there, I'm sure we can avoid having to get one of their rooms and just get a space large enough for our group, although I still don't have an accurate head-count yet.
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it may be 4-5 before i get there. it will just depend on when my passenger and i can meet up.
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it may be 4-5 before i get there. it will just depend on when my passenger and i can meet up.
As long as you get there early enough to get a good night's sleep, all is good!
Unless you want to participate in some pre-event nocturnal festivities? ;D ;D ;D
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Have arrangements been made for our evening dinner at The Boiler Room? We need to get the time included in our information packet.
Called, reserved for approx. 25 people starting at 7 PM this Saturday, waiting on final confirmation, but should all be good.
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IF YOU ARE COMING TO RFTH, A REMINDER TO BRING ALONG A ROLL OR TWO OF TOILET PAPER, AND SOME HAND SANITIZER, FOR THOSE INSTANCES WHERE PUBLIC FACILITIES ARE OUT OF SUPPLIES, OR PERHAPS LESS THAN SPARKLING CLEAN. ;)
FGTB
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Since I have become nothing more then the universe's litter pan... I'll be missing the whole darn thing!
:( Have fun everyone!
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Scott Brown is not going to be able to come this year. He was going to borrow one of my cars.
So now I have a car with no driver. If any member needs a car (and promises to take good care of it), let me know.
Redraif, if your problem is no car, you just ran out of excuses.
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I know that its late, but I will be joining ya'll for the run!
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I know that its late, but I will be joining ya'll for the run!
Awesome!
The more, the more. ;D
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It's never too late until it's over.
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good freakin news on my end! Tomorrow me and lee are going to get my new rear shocks put in and my good condition steering rack put in as well :) and the swap will start next week! Very excited to go out there with a better suspension >.<
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It's a record....it is 36 hours before we leave for the run, and both Colin's car and the convertible are ready to go. Guess I will have to do a Blue Ridge Parkway run tomorrow to see if I can break something...
Fierlfly, her husband, and myself plan on showing up fairly early Friday...probably around 3pm.
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Just be sure you get it aligned before the run. I take it that Lee isn't going to attend? I've been calling him for over a week and he doesn't answer.
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We are running late (did you really think we would be there when planned?) We are having lunch right now... we are about 3 hours out.
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Hope everyone is alive and well this afternoon. We made it home safely. The Little Black Car is making some horrible internal noises from under the hood, so I will have to do some diagnosis.
It was a great run yesterday, very well organized and fun to the last moment.
On the run down the four lane to Frankin when we passed the motorcycles my GPS set another record. We reached 86.5 MPH. Glad there was no radar set up there. ::) I averaged 24.65 MPG.
Thanks to Charlie, Don, Tim and all the rest who organized it and all participants that made it so enjoyable. ;D
The 18th RFTH can't come soon enough;
Harry and Karin
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Im back in Huntsville safe and sound. Had a GREAT time meeting people and making new friends. The run was lots of fun and could only be made better by doing another one. On the down side, I lost a camera so, if anyone found a small digital camera, please contact me. Thanks Charlie for the invite.
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This was a great run!
Here are some pictures...
Staging before the run...

Lunch...


Just before running the Dragon...

Rescuing the rescue vehicle...

After the dragon...


At Fontanna Dam...


Dinner after the run...

Fierofool owns the dragon!

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Fierfly took 277 pics from the passenger seat on this run....here is a small sample.


























Not sure what is so important about the dash, but she gets several good pics of it every year. Seriously though, this gives you an idea how difficult it is for her to get these action shots while I am pushing the car to it's limits on these curves.






I have only looked at one of the videos, and it is definitely worth watching...can't wait to see what else I have. I will hopefully get those up later tonight.
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We were again blessed with a wonderful weekend and an even better group of participants. Though it started out with a little fog for the first half hour, the sun broke through about the time we got into the good turns.
In a number of the pictures you'll see a BMW convertible in the midst. It wasn't just there by chance. The Dad is driving the silver GT in front, and the Daughter and Wife took turns whipping the B'mer through the curves. I ran behind them on several occasions and I was impressed with the Young Lady's (Wife) driving skills as well as those of the Xtra Young Lady's (Daughter). We're glad we met you and even more glad that you came out to join us. Hope you become a regular part of our group.
And that Saturn SUV back there is our trusty FiHero Service Vehicle with all sorts of Fiero First Aid supplies including modules, coils, lubricants, coolants, and who knows what else. Just about everything to keep a Fiero going sans an engine and transmission. Riding shotgun with him was a club member who knows his way in and out of a Fiero so anyone with a problem would never fall far behind.
In our defense, it wasn't riding our tail because he could keep up with us on the turns, but because we were often held up by guess what? MOTORCYCLES!
No problems with any vehicles and Whodeanie didn't do any of his pirouettes for us this year, but it was still a fun and exciting weekend just the same.
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Fellow Fieroans:
This was my first year actually running the RFTH. I was involved with FieroFool and several others in checking out the course, putting together directions, etc. Everyone did a great job with gave us one of the smoothest and most fun car 'rallies' I've ever been on!
I believe this was my third time actually running the TOTD, too. Twice in my Cadillac Allante' and this third time in the supercar to end all supercars: my 2004 Saturn VUE, filled with 3 tool boxes, 4 gals of coolant, 6 qts of oil, 2 cans of brake fluid, along with Liquid Wrench, Seafoam, Fuel-Injector cleaner, Rain-X, washer fluid, 6 orange traffic cones, flashing lights, cappuccino, sodas, extra FRS radios, and enough spare parts to assemble an extra Fiero if we met anyone along the way who wanted to join in.
Below, in no logical order, are a few observations, following my first GFC RFTH:
- I can't wait to see the Killboy.com photo of the looks on RockinRoger's and my faces as we squeeled around a curve in the VUE, both waving at the camera, when we notice that there's a trooper next to the photographer watching us, too. Kinda like that breathless moment when you look up from loading a CD to see that semi-truck stopped dead 17 feet in front of you.
- ICMs should be sold in 12-packs, and each driver should carry at least one 12-pack in the trunk for every 100 miles to be driven. Throw away the eight defective ones, and that will still leave you 2 to get you through that 100 miles.
- If you ever want someone to navigate you through one of these events, you couldn't pick a better and more entertaining shotgun-seater than RockinRoger!
- If you dare to come up on the back bumper of FieroFool, he will stick that canned-air blast horn out of his window backward and blow it at you. This accomplishes two things:
1- The blast from that nuclear-powered 700 dB air horn gives him an instant 6 MPH boost forward, and,
2- As RockinRoger would say, "That's enough to scare the fleas off a dog!"
- Horsetrading your raffle prize is twice as much fun as actually winning one!
- FieroFool's advice to BYO toilet paper and hand sanitizer is what makes him a 'sage.'
- Spartanzz & Spartanzzette have an unlimited supply of tolerance and humor. I had more fun tormenting these two young lovebirds at the meal stops than Prince Harry probably had in Vegas. (Well, almost, maybe.) As my salt-of-the-earth late aunt Alberta would have said, "Theys is good people." I know you all join me in wishing them both a lifetime of good health and every happiness together! They haven't set their wedding date yet, but I have a feeling they will be registered at most of our RFTH sponsors! ;-)
- Mom & Daughter following along while Dad drove his silver GT have mastered that Bimmer. One of the funniest moments on the run was when we missed a turn-off and had to make a U-turn at the next crossover on a divided 4-lane highway. I made a wide, sweeping U-turn in the VUE (which, BTW, handled like a half-full waterballoon on a roller skate with loose wheels) and looked up in my rearview mirror and RockinRoger looked into the side mirror just in time for us to witness Daughter literally PIVOTING that Bimmer into the first lane to head the opposite direction! RR and I both stuck our hands out the windows giving her the Thumbs Up signal, only to see Mom returning it... "Yeah, BOYS, that's MY daughter hand-brake- turning our Bimmer around in a cloud of tire smoke!" Whose mom wouldn't be proud? ;-)
- Even if this was the first time you've met them, Donster & Duchess are your good friends. Trust me; they do so much behind the scenes to make sure everyone has good, safe, fun.
- Within a 12-mile radius of the Franklin Microtel, neither Dollar General, Wal-Mart, Dollar Tree, Home Depot, Office Depot, nor Sam's Saw Rentals & Computer Repair have rolls of raffle tickets available at 8pm on a Friday night, and K-Mart only carries them in red.
- A group of large, pink balloons WILL survive 30-degree variances in temperature changes, wind, and light rain overnight when tied to a highway signpost to mark a hard-to-see turn.
- Radiator fan plugs come in two different types.
- Sometimes, the rescue vehicle needs a rescue. (Thanks for the jump start, J!). (And you quit snickering, Spartanzz!)
- I'll be back next year.
Best,
Fiero GTB
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Cherohala Skyway - Saturday - 9/15/2012 - Photos taken 10am - 5pm
http://killboy.photoreflect.com/store/ThumbPage.aspx?e=8678870&g=04RK01SI02 (http://killboy.photoreflect.com/store/ThumbPage.aspx?e=8678870&g=04RK01SI02)
Deal's Gap / TOTD photos ARE NOW POSTED:
http://killboy.photoreflect.com/store/ThumbPage.aspx?e=8663290&g=04RK01RU02 (http://killboy.photoreflect.com/store/ThumbPage.aspx?e=8663290&g=04RK01RU02)
Fiero GTB
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What Tim Said!!!!
Can't wait for # 18!!
Fell in love all over with you fanatics! ;D
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In Fiero GTB's 2nd link, the Fiero pics start on page 12.
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Before I forget:
Thank you very much to Dean (WhoDeanie) for bringing a group on Saturday morning just to do the run with us and leave right after/during the run. Heaven knows he doesn't really have the time to spare but he came out and played anyways!
BTW: I fixed the raffle so Darryl would win a RFTH # 17 cup with one of your raffle tickets; I knew you wanted one!
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Thanks Dean!
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Figured I would post the other videos. Not as exciting as that first one, but for people that haven't been there, these give a better idea of how RFTH is actually driven.
Franklin, NC until I maxed out the file size...
Following Whodeanie on the Cherohala Skyway until I ran out of battery...
Tail Of The Dragon...
TOTD to Fontana Dam
I think the video from the GoPro was good...but the sound left a bit to be desired. Next time I will use a remote mic and drop it in either the spare tire area or the interior.
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Woo hoo ... Aerodonamic and the convertible made Killboy's weekly highlights...
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151249062358140.519970.211220253139&type=1
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....and so did you!
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Just a thought, and probably already been done, but I'd instruct the cars that want to run fast to line up on the left side of the lot, and the cars that want to run slowly to line up on the right. Everyone should park facing the center of the lot. When leaving, cars exit in order, by row, based on closest to the exit. First the rows on the left, then the rows on the right.
Air horn? Really?
I guess hellboy didn't catch any funny expressions. The driver was facing forward, and the passenger looked normal.
Whodeanie's pirrouette? Did Dean spin out previously?
How do you deal with sun angles? Also, it seemed to be a bit wet.
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People do divide into one of 3 groups. The first ones out are the ones we dubbed Maniacs. Whodeanie was among those. All out. V8'sm superchargers, turbo's, etc. Lots of 2.8's and 3.4's run with them, too. Second group out we call Agressive and the third group are named Tourist or Sightseers. At fuel, rest, overlooks or any stop, people jockey around among the groups. Depends upon how they think they did up to that point.
As you see in the beginning video, it was very foggy to begin with. The sun started to break through within the first hour and the whole day turned out good. Even on the sunniest of days, you will frequently see wet windshields on the cars. Fiero windshield washers are prone to spritzing a little water when taking a curve very hard. It's the car's way of letting you know that you're finally understanding what Pontiac Excitement is.
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There seemed to be a lot of confusion, leaving the parking lot, with people not sure who was going next. Usually the driver of the SAG wagon ensures orderly flow. Each group woud fire their engines together, then pull out in turn.
I can just see the third group, ”Let's swap places in line. You're seeing too many sites, this tour.”
The V8's don't run off and leave the 2.8's? I'd figure, all out, the 2.8's and 2.5's would rapidly fall behind. From the brake zone to the center, the heavier cars may suffer, but from the center down the straights, the faster cars should be gone. Of course, anyone familiar with the course would have an advantage.
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Some of the higher powered cars do run away but there's often bicycles and vehicle traffic that will slow them down. They also stop at points along the way to wait for the others. TopNotch has often run his 88 Duke along with the Maniacs. He was just a few cars behind Whodeanie when he spun out in the 88 Supercharged GT. The little convertible is an 84 Duke automatic, and one year it and my 88 Duke were the first two cars, leading the whole RFTH.
It isn't a race. Everyone drives at their own pace. Most will move into another group at a stop if they feel they're being held back or if they're slowing others behind them. When I've led a group, I might run away for a while, but then slow down for folks to catch up so that we can keep the weekend leaf-lookers out of our midst. Last year I led but was sometimes being pushed by some of the Capital City Fieros members.
The only persons who are familiar with the route are those who help to do the scouting, so most of us exercise a lot of caution. Going on 22 years without an accident. There have only been 3 spinouts. Two on wet pavement with less than optimum tires and Whodeanie. CowsPatoot broke a rear hub on the convertible but handled it well enough that it almost looked like he decided to pull to the side to rest.
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Ah. Dean did spin. I thought TopNotch spun, one of the other years.
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The V8's don't run off and leave the 2.8's? I'd figure, all out, the 2.8's and 2.5's would rapidly fall behind. From the brake zone to the center, the heavier cars may suffer, but from the center down the straights, the faster cars should be gone. Of course, anyone familiar with the course would have an advantage.
The curves are a great equalizer. Fierofool (a maniac) usually lays out the course, and he doesn't like straights. I rode with him on the dragon once. His oil light would come on on some of the curves -- he was driving hard enough to sling he oil away from the pump.
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Doesn't the 2.5 have poor oiling, or does the 2.8 do it, also.
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Fiero's car has a 3.4, I think.
I don't know about earlier 2.5's, but my 88 has excellent oiling. It also has an accelerated motion cam, big block chevy roller rockers, and is board .040 over. And it does Ok on RFTH.
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The same engines were used in rear wheel drive vehicles without the same issues. The problem is when the engine is mounted transversely. The pan sump is on one end of the oil pan. Exceptionally hard turns can cause the oil that's not up in the engine to slosh away from the pump pickup allowing it to pull air and loose pressure.
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Does that cam help with oiling? The oiling in the 2.8's is pathetic.
If bored .040 over, is it a 2.7?
I don't know who Fiero is. Fierofool? My understanding is that the 3.4 with high-volume oil pump, the baffles in the oil pan, clean journals, a good pickup, and deep galleys oils very well. With a 4-speed and 4.10 final drive, it'd be a blast. Fierofool had some driving instruction, I think.
Does your Fiero have the SD heads?
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Found it.

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I don't know who Fiero is. Fierofool? My understanding is that the 3.4 with high-volume oil pump, the baffles in the oil pan, clean journals, a good pickup, and deep galleys oils very well. With a 4-speed ant 4.10 final drive, it'd be a blast. Fierofool had some driving instruction, I think.
Does your Fiero have the SD heads?
I think he was referring to me, just didn't complete the spelling. Spellcheck sometimes does that if you aren't paying attention. The 87 and 88 2.8 had improved oiling. Subsequent variants of the 2.8 block also got improvements in the oiling passages and pumps. The 3.4 high volume pump will mount into a 2.8 but the pan baffle needs to be trimmed for clearance of the pickup.
There is very little difference in the 2.8 and 3.4 pans. Both engines call for 4.5 quarts oil with filter. I normally use 5.
I had a 4:10 in one of my 85's for a brief period. It's quick once you get into 2nd, but the engine runs very high rpm. It's a decent track transmission in the 2.8 but the 2.5 is getting up around 3500 rpm at 60 mph and the 2.8 tops out at about 70 mph with that transmission.
My drivers training was taken at Old School. You drive by the sound of the engine and the seat of your pants. Your ears and butt will tell you what the car's doing.
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Spell check is terrible--especially on an apple. Very entertaining.
I belive the 3.4 oil pump pumps the wrong way. The 3.4 oil pan needs a bit of encouragement to fit in a Fiero. I thought the 2.8 oil pan didn't have baffles.
So, yours is the 3.4?
Is RFTH over 70MPH? Somehow, I thought it was mostly under 60.
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Is RFTH over 70MPH? Somehow, I thought it was mostly under 60.
RFTH is... You see a tight curve posted at 15MPH. You take it at 30, 40, or whatever you can. At least, that's the way the maniacs do it.
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Posted, as in warning, or posted, as in invite to the policemen's ball?
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No. The pump is just a bigger version of the 2.8. The drive from the camshaft is in the same direction.
Both pans have baffles. When using the 3.4 pan, a small dent is required in one of the front corners in order to clear the Fiero front mount. I'm not sure, but it may only be needed on the 88. I don't recall my 87 having been a problem.
RFTH speeds vary. The Dragon speed limit is 35 mph for the full 11 miles. We often hit 65 or maybe even more on some of the short stretches. I commonly run The Dragon in 3rd gear to a max of about 65 before upshifting. I seldom get down to 2nd gear. Some roads we have used portions of like I-40 are 70. Passing through a business district or school zone can be 25 mph. Think back about your trip you related where your GPS took you through some very winding roads. You encounter all kinds of speed limits. On the open road, we don't necessarily observe the limit. Again, it isn't a race. People drive to enjoy, stay together, but still be safe.
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Posted, as in warning, or posted, as in invite to the policemen's ball?
Yes. :D
To the earlier discussion... Fierofool is definitely one of the maniacs. He, Fierochild (aka Chuck - a sometime SCCA racer) and I, did a scouting trip one year, through the Dragon. Charlie ran off and hid from us. Chuck was second. I brought up the rear. (They were running 2.8s. I was running a built up 3.4. Probably had a 20-30 HP advantage, but my "bearings" just weren't as large. :D )
By the time we finished, there was tire dust all over the rear quarters and bumpers of our cars.
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Posted, as in warning, or posted, as in invite to the policemen's ball?
Yes. :D
Some help!
I don't mind opening it up, but I don't want any velocity check slips. I got busted for a speed that exceeded good, bad, and terrible judgment, years ago. A judge gave me a suspended sentence, due to circumstances. One of the circumstances was that the guy I was racing turned out to be HP. His Corvette topped out at 182, and he was a bad loser. The original judge ruled not an isolated incident. Apparently, at 40 over, you lose your license and go to jail.
The roads my GPS took me on were gravel, through the middle of cornfields. No posted speed limits (IL), but probably supposed to be 25 or so. The gravel roads had names, and occasional stop signs. It was night, with no lights.
Our bad roads (old logger trails) are still 60MPH, but sometimes turns have warnings (yelow signs with speeds down to 5MPH). If they say 5MPH, it's best to stop, because you'll need to 3-point the turn. One section had so many deaths every year that they made bypasses, then fixed those 5 miles or so. I think it was called bloody alley. There used to be a big sign. The problem is that you can't see if someone ahead of you is slow in or after a turn. The deaths were not from rear-ending, though.
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In reality, RFTH is a bunch of Fiero and/or automobile enthusiasts who get together on a weekend each September to take a cruise on a route that Georgia Fieros has laid out with planned hotels, restaurants, fuel and restroom stops. People are free to drive it as they see fit. We just ask everyone to stay on their side of the center line and be safe.
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I would say the 85 4 speed and v6 tops out not at 70, but when the headlight covers pop up and you have to stop to change your underwear. I don't know what speed that is because my speedometer had rolled back over, so maybe 10-15mph? ;)
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CowsPatoot broke a rear hub on the convertible but handled it well enough that it almost looked like he decided to pull to the side to rest.
I think I found it. How did he continue from there?
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Fiero's car has a 3.4, I think.
This is a 3.4, whomever it belongs to. Nice run, but I'd have stayed on it through the straights more, and freaked out on that right turn, when all those cars and people were just dead ahead.
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That was up in cowspatoot's home area near Boone, NC. I didn't make that run but I believe they rode back with someone, got his truck and trailer and retrieved it.