Post by: WV Mike on November 30, 2014, 06:18:17 pm
http://www.jcwhitney.com/fairchild-industries-glass-weatherstrip-seal/p3039069.jcwx?skuId=225817&&filterid=u0 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/fairchild-industries-glass-weatherstrip-seal/p3039069.jcwx?skuId=225817&&filterid=u0)
JC Whitney SKU #: JCW-819751.
Post by: Fierofool on November 30, 2014, 08:32:42 pm
Post by: WV Mike on December 01, 2014, 08:24:56 am
Post by: Fierofool on December 01, 2014, 09:04:32 am
Post by: WV Mike on December 01, 2014, 12:09:53 pm
Post by: WV Mike on December 01, 2014, 09:19:48 pm
Post by: WV Mike on December 05, 2014, 07:54:28 pm
Here is the new seal.
And here it is being installed.
Post by: WV Mike on January 01, 2015, 02:38:48 pm
Post by: Fierofool on January 01, 2015, 09:37:19 pm
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 01, 2015, 09:47:21 pm
Post by: Fierofool on January 01, 2015, 10:00:46 pm
Post by: WV Mike on January 02, 2015, 10:11:17 am
Can you detail for us what modifications you needed to do? Special tools needed, time involved, etc. What's the cost savings against other available dew wipes when you factor in your modification labor?
For the outer window seals, I paid $19.45 each with free shipping from JCWhitney. And, for the inner window seals, I paid $18.10 each with free shipping from JCWhitney. Plus, you can always find Promo codes for JCWhitney and save a few more dollars. For the outer window seals, all I had to do was cut them to the same shape as the originals. I used a gray sharpie marker to trace the out line, used a dremel tool to cut to shape, drilled screw holes, and riveted on the other removable parts as my picture shows. I bought the felt from Lowes for $4.17 plus tax, which I cut to shape and glued with gorilla glue to replace the old felt. Here is a link to the felt I used:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_54164-255-4740095N_0__?productId=3034727&Ntt=felt&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dfelt&facetInfo= (http://www.lowes.com/pd_54164-255-4740095N_0__?productId=3034727&Ntt=felt&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3Dfelt&facetInfo=)
I already had the tools, glue, and rivets. So, if you have these already, then you can save a lot more over buying them from someone or some store on the internet. Overall, I'd say you save about 50% at least if you have the tools already and the time to make them.
Post by: WV Mike on January 02, 2015, 10:12:32 am
I actually started replacing my outer dew wipes today and did a video step-by-step. I got as far as removing everything but the video is on hold for the moment because I have to order an outer door handle. I ordered the the dew wipes and the handle from the Fiero Store but didn't get the handle. Once it comes in I'll finish the video. I use the tool from Rodney Rickman. I can't do it without his tool. The real mystery is how to change those inner window brushes without removing tthe glass.
That would be great to have a step by step video.
Post by: TopNotch on January 02, 2015, 11:02:47 am
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 02, 2015, 12:03:11 pm
I always loosen them when replacing the dew wipes, but I'm careful not to loosen enough that they drop because I've heard they're a real booger to get back in place. I wonder if it would be possible to use a magnetic pickup to push them back up into place. I'll have to try a practice removal and replacement of the inside pads next time I visit the pull-a-part yard.
I guess they could be a pain to put back into place if you didn't have the right tools to reach down there and fish them back up. I didn't have much of a problem. I have a little dental type pick with a curved end that I've used to stick down into the bolt hole and pull them back up. I've even spun the brush around to see if I had a better chance at pulling it out backwards but that never worked either. Even after removing the outer dew wipe and pulling the window as far out as I could possibly get it I just can't get enough tilt on the inner brush to pull it out. Mine aren't really in bad shape but I bought new ones since I was already there but I've come to the conclusion that my inner brushes are staying in there for now.
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 02, 2015, 12:13:53 pm
Post by: Fierofool on January 02, 2015, 12:50:36 pm
The reason for cutting away the old dew wipe is because it's usually brittle and broken and of no use. It makes access to those little screws much easier. The new dew wipe is soft and supple and will allow you to get your fingers and dew wipe tool in there to replace the screws.
Usually the inner felt pads are good since they aren't exposed to the rain and dirt that the outer pads encounter. Unless they are scratching the inside of the window, I really see no need for replacement.. The inner seal is essentially to keep out noise and any air that might be forced into the door through drains, door handles and trim pieces.
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 02, 2015, 01:38:32 pm
Yes, that was an impromptu video and wasn't planned. Though I had planned the tech session at the meeting, there were no plans for the video. TopNotch just decided to video at the last moment, with his phone, I believe.
The reason for cutting away the old dew wipe is because it's usually brittle and broken and of no use. It makes access to those little screws much easier. The new dew wipe is soft and supple and will allow you to get your fingers and dew wipe tool in there to replace the screws.
Usually the inner felt pads are good since they aren't exposed to the rain and dirt that the outer pads encounter. Unless they are scratching the inside of the window, I really see no need for replacement.. The inner seal is essentially to keep out noise and any air that might be forced into the door through drains, door handles and trim pieces.
Wait so was that you in the video? It was helpful for me so I'm glad the impromptu video made it online. Without it I may have just skipped the dew wipe replacement when doing my FieroStore door speaker conversion.
I actually tried using the Rodney Dickman tool without cutting away the old rubber and came to the same conclusion. The old hardened rubber wasn't allowing me to get to the screws until I cut it away but after installing the new dew wipe it is soft enough to still allow access to the screws. It wasn't until I actually did the swap that I gained that knowledge so I thought it would be something that I would share in my version of the video to anyone looking to fix their dew wipes.
Post by: Fierofool on January 02, 2015, 02:05:54 pm
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 02, 2015, 06:11:33 pm
Post by: Fierofool on January 02, 2015, 09:32:09 pm
The skinny legs in the shorts just before I start to cut away the old wipe belong to Aerodonamic, At the beginning of video 3 is CowsPatoot in the black Tshirt and Aerodonamic again. Then the owner of the car in the black Pigeon Forge Tshirt is former member Jerry Thayer. I forgot his username.
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 10, 2015, 10:26:37 pm
Post by: f85gtron on January 11, 2015, 02:42:30 am
Ron
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 16, 2015, 02:02:02 pm
Post by: LostNotForgotton on January 23, 2015, 09:33:05 am
Also wrapped up a rear sway bar install video. Now I just gotta finished editing my battery relocation, FieroStore door speaker panel and HUD (heads-up display) videos. Then I think I might be caught up. Just bought a 3800 engine and I'd like to make computer space to do a video log of that build 8)
Post by: WV Mike on February 14, 2015, 02:11:43 pm