Post by: Donster on June 01, 2019, 03:08:37 pm
So, who can oblige? ;D I would really appreciate it.
Thnx,
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Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 01, 2019, 07:29:14 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 02, 2019, 02:00:25 pm
Wouldn't it be best to just put the paper in the desired area, and just trace that area? This would then be an original work, if not an original idea?
Post by: Donster on June 02, 2019, 02:39:38 pm
\D
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 03, 2019, 07:57:56 pm
As these items are not being sold in Europe, there is no copyright or trademark infringement.Tracing an original item is much more accurate (and less work). ;D Like I said, I'm willing to pay for the effort & shipping.
\D
I thought about this carefully. For the person copying here, there is infringement here. This would literally be copying someone else's work to create your own product. I feel that there is a fine line here. I would like to think that I have a good relationship with both vendors, each of whom will sell overseas. The trademark/copyright issue means little to me. I am not making a judgment call on the decisions of anyone else, but this would violate my ethics. To me, this would be stealing someone else's work. As you say, it is work. I also am not making a statement about the position of the club on this, being that this is on the club's public forum.
Do not take this personally, and I have tried to word this such that it is not personal. I would hope that, if the positions were reversed, you would provide similar feedback to me.
I have found that many doors have opened for me, merely because I asked. Have you just asked that particular vendor for a tracing? It would seem that the worst they could say is no. At least you respected the vendor enough to ask. Either way, it would be up front. Most of the vendors do not make a living by selling Fiero products. Some of them have gone out of their way to help me.
Post by: TopNotch on June 03, 2019, 08:34:45 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 03, 2019, 08:38:27 pm
Never mind all that gibberish in the last message.
Wow!
Post by: TopNotch on June 03, 2019, 09:19:52 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 03, 2019, 09:31:47 pm
I do not see any humor in what you wrote.
Post by: Donster on June 04, 2019, 01:03:52 am
BTW: I did ask TFS and RW. From RW I never got a response and TFS flat-out said no, as they send straight from warehouses and never phisically see or touch the mats.
Post by: Fierofool on June 04, 2019, 08:13:21 am
Post by: Raydar on June 04, 2019, 10:36:06 am
I don't see how the shape of a floor mat could be considered intellectual property. If it's a sticking point for anyone, I have some stock mats that I can trace. :D
The trunk cover...
I made my own. It's not actually a cover. It's a false floor, that covers the bottom half of the trunk, making a hidden compartment for tools, etc. 88 specific.
I can trace that, if you'd like. It doesn't go all the way to the left and right ends - missing about 5 inches at each end - but it still looks fine. Still covers the "hole".
Post by: Raydar on June 04, 2019, 10:39:06 am
For the trunk cover, would the pre-88 be different than the 88 due to the elimination of the trunk mounted fan?
If it's the trunk floor (as I posted above), yes. Absolutely different. (The 4 cylinder cars are the same as the 88. No fan.)
Post by: Donster on June 04, 2019, 11:17:57 am
I can trace that, if you'd like. It doesn't go all the way to the left and right ends - missing about 5 inches at each end - but it still looks fine. Still covers the "hole".
Absolutely! I would really appreciate it. Funny you mention it, but I would rather have a false floor, than a complete cover, exactly for the reason you mention.........hidden tools and such. I could probably add the missing 5 inches on either side to fill out the space nicely.
Thanks!
Post by: Raydar on June 04, 2019, 12:40:06 pm
I'll have to see if I have any craft paper that large. If I do, I'll trace my mats too, unless Pat beats me to it.
Post by: Donster on June 04, 2019, 03:29:26 pm
Thnx!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 04, 2019, 04:06:05 pm
The Fiero Store mats are already a copy, as are probably 99% of all aftermarket mats, for any car.
TFS sells GM licensed floor mats. Not exactly a copy.
The other aftermarket mats are various and sundry. Not very similar at all. Some just traced the floor. Some have contours. I actually bought a bunch of sets for comparison. I have a set of stock mats in the original packaging, 2 slightly different sets from TFS, and 9 other new sets, as well as 2 used sets from different years. I don't have a set of Indy mats, yet.
Some of the mats I do have fit better than others, and there was a particular reason why...
Post by: Slyp on June 04, 2019, 04:17:51 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 04, 2019, 04:24:14 pm
Actually, one of the sets is borrowed. The owner would not sell them to me.
Post by: GTXVette on June 04, 2019, 05:55:48 pm
Post by: TopNotch on June 05, 2019, 10:14:57 am
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 05, 2019, 03:33:48 pm
Post by: Donster on June 08, 2019, 09:50:56 am
Post by: montegut on June 08, 2019, 09:13:45 pm
Post by: Donster on June 09, 2019, 01:49:35 pm
But thanks anyways.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 09, 2019, 01:57:35 pm
Post by: Fierofool on June 09, 2019, 02:36:58 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 09, 2019, 03:09:59 pm
Post by: Fierofool on June 09, 2019, 06:19:42 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 09, 2019, 06:23:22 pm
Post by: TopNotch on June 09, 2019, 07:25:35 pm
Post by: Donster on June 10, 2019, 10:11:04 am
So I'm looking for either a trace of a Notchback trunk cover (top) or a trace of a shelf cover (half way down) that fits an 88 Notchie.Would that be the correct description?
And of course a trace of floor mats. ;D Thanks.
\D
Post by: Raydar on June 10, 2019, 01:09:29 pm
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Don, I still haven't gotten your tracings. Was sick, Saturday, and got busy, yesterday. Haven't forgotten you.
Post by: Fierofool on June 10, 2019, 03:19:21 pm
Post by: PK on June 10, 2019, 04:08:33 pm
Post by: Raydar on June 10, 2019, 05:05:00 pm
How is the left side of the 88 configured? The right side of the early V6 is shaped differently than Steve's photo, too.
On the 88, the little shelf on the left side of the front wall goes all the way across. About a 2-3" wide shelf.
Here's one without the "shelf cover". Kind of hard to see in the pic, but the shelf extends to the right, from about where the jumper cable clamp is laying.
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Post by: Fierofool on June 10, 2019, 05:26:15 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 10, 2019, 06:49:44 pm
Post by: Donster on June 18, 2019, 03:56:05 pm
;D
Post by: Donster on June 25, 2019, 05:18:40 am
Post by: Donster on June 26, 2019, 09:20:27 am
Still need floor mat templates.
Please, please, pretty please?
Post by: TopNotch on June 28, 2019, 10:52:54 pm
Post by: Donster on June 29, 2019, 02:48:55 am
I sent you my postal via PM.
LMK what I owe you!
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