Post by: Sandman87 on July 24, 2019, 06:49:17 pm
Thanks in advance ,
Mike
Post by: scottb on July 24, 2019, 08:39:58 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on July 24, 2019, 08:45:01 pm
Hmmm. I have 2 sets of manifolds. I wonder where they are?
Post by: TopNotch on July 24, 2019, 10:03:50 pm
Otherwise, I will look in the barn tomorrow evening.
Post by: Sandman87 on July 25, 2019, 05:59:02 am
Post by: GTRS Fiero on July 25, 2019, 06:26:26 am
Whatever manifold you get, it should be welded, if it has not been. The manifolds were poorly built, and cracking is common. A good weld job will not be a problem.
The 3.4 requires more air than the 2.8. The intake and exhaust should be opened up to allow additional air flow.
Post by: scottb on July 25, 2019, 06:56:25 am
Post by: Sandman87 on July 25, 2019, 07:00:58 am
Ill take it in today and re-weld all the seams i hope it holds up .
I have a plainer at work to flatten the surfaces .
If anyone has one id still like to acquire one just in case .
Im assuming its a mild steel correct ? I need to use the right welding rods .
Post by: Sandman87 on July 25, 2019, 07:03:14 am
scott ,maybe i should fabricate some shielding to prevent this in the future ;)
Post by: GTRS Fiero on July 25, 2019, 07:11:57 am
Post by: Sandman87 on July 25, 2019, 07:16:50 am
im going to weld every thing wish m luck its bretty bad
Post by: GTRS Fiero on July 25, 2019, 07:19:00 am
Post by: Fierofool on July 25, 2019, 08:37:54 am
The manifolds are mild stainless steel so let your welder know that. it will make a difference in the quality of his weld. If the old engine was blown, I would remove one of the heads and use it as my flat plane. Bolt the manifold back in place with all cracks closed as much as possible. The head warps on it's surface where it contacts the block. There's a little wiggle room for the manifolds to fit onto their studs and if there was enough head warpage to affect the manifold you would see a gap between the head and block, or if it warped sideways, it would break head bolts because they are a tight fit through the head as they pass into the block.
On a side note, before you install your 3.4, you should remove the pipe plug that's in the trunk side head just above the #5 exhaust port if you haven't already done so. Then remove the sensor that's in the opposite head, just above the #2 exhaust port. Put the pipe plug in place of the sensor and install a new gauge sending unit in the trunk side head. You can use your old 2.8 set up as a guide.
Post by: scottb on July 25, 2019, 12:19:57 pm
Post by: Sandman87 on July 25, 2019, 12:35:08 pm
yeah i think is going to be safer to just replace it .. thank you topnotch for taking a look i hope you have one . again its the front header besides the fire wall.
the engine is the worst ive ever seen i bet the heads were warped there was .5 inch of sludge in the oil gallery above the cam and both heads were full of sludge and carbon deposits it also spun main and #3 & # 5 barrings when i bought it he said it over heats and is knocking so...
Post by: scottb on July 25, 2019, 05:50:16 pm
Post by: TopNotch on July 25, 2019, 08:44:27 pm
Post by: Sandman87 on July 26, 2019, 10:02:32 am
Post by: Fierofool on July 26, 2019, 03:34:28 pm
Post by: MikeMac on July 26, 2019, 04:59:17 pm
Post by: scottb on July 26, 2019, 06:52:51 pm
Post by: Sandman87 on July 27, 2019, 10:16:57 am
ready for assembly!!
Post by: Fierofool on July 27, 2019, 08:58:43 pm
Post by: Sandman87 on July 28, 2019, 02:46:13 pm
Post by: Sandman87 on July 28, 2019, 02:48:16 pm
Post by: Fierofool on July 28, 2019, 06:35:51 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on July 31, 2019, 09:16:35 pm
Post by: TopNotch on August 06, 2019, 09:28:01 pm
Post by: Fierofool on August 06, 2019, 10:02:40 pm
Post by: MikeMac on August 07, 2019, 02:19:38 pm
He does, Pat. The one I sent got to Lexington Ky. and disappeared. I sent it by OOPS.
Aren't UPS packages automatically insured up to $100? Most of what I ship needs way more insurance that I have to pay extra for.
Post by: Fierofool on August 07, 2019, 02:38:57 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on August 08, 2019, 06:01:15 pm
Post by: Fierofool on August 08, 2019, 09:11:01 pm
He refused. Said he would give a price over the phone but he wouldn't help me to make a profit by claiming the manifold was worth more than what I sold it for. Wish that place was still under the old ownership.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on August 08, 2019, 09:18:09 pm
I dislike shipping things, because they get lost. It is incredible, that a company that only transports items, loses so many of them.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on August 08, 2019, 09:18:43 pm
https://westcoastfiero.com/products/28-exhaust-manifold-pair
Post by: MikeMac on August 08, 2019, 10:00:40 pm
He refused. Said he would give a price over the phone but he wouldn't help me to make a profit by claiming the manifold was worth more than what I sold it for. Wish that place was still under the old ownership.
That is just an asinine view the vendor is taking. If you have to replace the lost manifold obviously your insurance claim would be the cost from a vendor to replace it. That seems legitimate to me.
I guess he can make a profit but you are not allowed?
I would wager a guess that Fierofool has given away thousands of dollars worth of parts over the years to help the Fiero community.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on August 08, 2019, 10:12:07 pm
If it's the vendor I think it is, that particular vendor charges a fortune for everything. There is no profit to be made by getting an insurance claim for a fraction of the value. If someone sends you the Mona Lisa, and the painting is lost in shipping, it would seem that they should be able to get info to make a claim, and filing a claim is not making a profit, even if they were giving you the painting for free.
Post by: Fierofool on August 09, 2019, 10:02:06 am
I would wager a guess that Fierofool has given away thousands of dollars worth of parts over the years to help the Fiero community.
Thank you, Mike, but probably not that much.
I never thought about filing the claim for what it would cost to replace them, but the limit of insurance was set at $100. I think I'll send the OOPS manager the link that you provided, GTRS. Thanks.
Post by: Sandman87 on August 15, 2019, 07:15:17 am
Post by: TopNotch on August 15, 2019, 11:33:05 am
Top notch ,I still need one !PM sent.
Post by: Sandman87 on September 03, 2019, 10:02:03 am