Georgia Fiero Club Forum

All Things Fiero => Club Events => Topic started by: MikeMac on April 23, 2020, 02:01:11 am

Title: May Club Meeting
Post by: MikeMac on April 23, 2020, 02:01:11 am
May is rolling right around the corner. Our meeting date would be May 9th which is 16 days away. Assuming the Duluth Diner is back open then, are we wanting to gather under the circumstances? Feedback is appreciated.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 23, 2020, 07:55:32 am
The state is allowing restaurants to return to inside dining, as long as they follow required safety and sanitary guidelines.  I haven't seen anything regarding those guidelines.  They may not allow a group of our size to be seated together.  It would be interesting to see the requirements.  If anyone can find them, please post them here.

Should they be too restrictive for our group, if Scott is willing, we could hold our meeting at his shop.  That way, we are only with people we know and trust to not come out if they are endangering others.  Food could be ordered for delivery or pickup.  There are at least 3 project cars there that groups could get into. 

I have a digital thermometer to test everyone's temp before they enter.  Masks could be worn if the club wants to require them. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 23, 2020, 07:59:51 am
How close do you have to get to check their temp?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 23, 2020, 08:11:29 am
It's a contact thermometer against the temple or forehead.  Arm's length, or it could be laid on a table for each person to self-test. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 23, 2020, 08:14:34 am
Probably need disposable gloves for each person, too, so aren't catching from touching thermometer.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: TopNotch on April 23, 2020, 08:15:19 am
If you have one of those automotive diagnostic thermometers that you "aim and shoot", those work on people, too. No contact necessary.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 23, 2020, 08:17:02 am
"If you come in here, I'm gonna have to shoot ya."
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 23, 2020, 08:20:57 am
If you have one of those automotive diagnostic thermometers that you "aim and shoot", those work on people, too. No contact necessary.

I have one of those, too. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 23, 2020, 08:24:27 am
How accurate is it at that distance on people?

Also, 98.6 is running a fever, for me, and I know other people whose normal temp is 3 degrees lower.  Surely people there, too.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 23, 2020, 08:32:40 am
I think they're supposed to be held 8 to 12 inches away.  My normal temp is 97.4 to 97.6.  Most folks our age know what their normal temperature is by now.  Any temperature more than 2.5 to 3 degrees above normal should be suspect. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: TopNotch on April 23, 2020, 09:33:39 am
The point-and-shoot thermometer, aimed at your forehead, will read up to a degree lower than an under-the-tongue thermometer. It depends on what your forehead has been exposed to.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: The Art Doctor on April 23, 2020, 12:03:01 pm
I got the feeling this is a "soft" opening, small business only, no large crowds, not really business as usual, things like hair salons and tattoo parlors that can see one customer at a time.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 23, 2020, 04:16:26 pm
Yes.  My barber has 4 chairs.  They have a church pew size bench on either side of the waiting are plus 4 chairs.  They are only allowing a person in each barber chair and 1 person on each end of the 2 benches, maximum at one time.  All equipment will be sprayed down with an aerosol disinfectant between customers.  She didn't tell me what personal protective equipment will be used. 

I'm fortunate that she lives near me and I can go to her home.  I wouldn't be concerned to go into her shop with those standards in place.  But I would be afraid to go into a restaurant, not knowing their standards.  Kemp has set some occupancy restrictions but I don't know what they are. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 23, 2020, 05:42:31 pm
Yeah, see the videio I sent you, Fierofool.  Hopefully not that bad.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on April 23, 2020, 08:03:37 pm
Thanks for volunteering me Charlie... :P

Yall come on.

Im not worried about the virus, but if anyone is the shop is big enough that 30 people can be in there and stay 6 feet apart. Everyone bring a can of Brakeclean for sterilizing purposes (that stuff kills anything).

Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: MikeMac on April 23, 2020, 10:15:41 pm
I have an idea for the thermometer. Take 2 fiero center door moldings duct taped end to end with a rectal thermometer taped to the very end. If the person taking the temp has a fully outstretched arm that should be six feet. The person having the temp taken would be facing away in case they sneeze or cough. Their head would be low to the ground due to being bent over and that would help a cough not spread up into the air.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 23, 2020, 10:26:17 pm
This should only be used on...politicians.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: NoMad on April 23, 2020, 10:40:43 pm
I might be the only one, but I am not sure a restaurant meeting will be a good idea. All the medical data says we will be right at a peak transmission upswing around then if people abandon the SIP and quarantine protocols. So I am a no for that one.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 24, 2020, 07:49:28 am
There was a suggestion for meeting at the shop, rather than a restaurant.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on April 24, 2020, 07:35:52 pm
Do I need to clean my mess up?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 26, 2020, 11:32:47 am
I just spoke with Pat and Scott.  The meeting/workshop will take place at Scott's shop on Canton Hwy in Cumming, Ga. at 10AM, May 9.

If you don't know the location of the shop and wish to attend, please email for directions at GeorgiaFieroClub@Gmail.Com

The club will order pizza for delivery.  We will have tea and soda for refreshment. 

Temperatures will be checked at the door and the wearing of protective masks is requested if you have them. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 27, 2020, 12:56:31 am
Sorry.  Didn't intend to push this topic down.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on April 28, 2020, 03:38:18 pm
Anyone but myself and Charlie coming?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: TopNotch on April 28, 2020, 03:41:32 pm
I'm planning to come.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Raydar on April 28, 2020, 09:49:29 pm
A definite "maybe". Let me see what's going on. It's now at least a 1.5 hour drive. One way.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Raydar on April 28, 2020, 09:51:26 pm
...
Everyone bring a can of Brakeclean for sterilizing purposes (that stuff kills anything).

Can that be injected? You know... like Lysol?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 28, 2020, 10:07:15 pm
Ingested?  Like bleach?  DON'T ACTUALLY INGEST bleach.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: TopNotch on April 28, 2020, 11:09:22 pm
Just in the news tonight -- two men died of poisoning from drinking a cocktail of cleaning products and mouth wash.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 29, 2020, 01:03:41 am
Darwin is their friend.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: The Art Doctor on April 29, 2020, 08:26:11 am
Suicide?  That would be my first thought, I bet investigators will do a full background check in light of the POTUS statement.  To be honest, and I do not much care for him at all as a leader, I took him to be spit balling the development of a new system to cleanse oneself once you get it, not putting out you should drink Lysol.  Then again I am educated with an advanced degree and 85% of Americans are not (not that that guarantees smarts).  One guest on the Sunday morning political talk shows commented and called him a Witch Doctor, which I got a kick out of.  I think the real sad part was that the woman he was talking to ( I forget her name)  is the advisory physician and she just sat there not looking at him (purposely not making eye contact) and did not correct him or say a word.  They are all weak in fear of being fired and loosing the big fancy lifestyle, pathetic.

And on the original subject;  I happen to drive by the Duluth Diner yesterday around 11:30am and they had a huge banner at the road that proclaimed they were open and had about 10 cars in the front parking lot.  There was a lot of signage posted on the door I noticed from the road but did not stop to read as I was pulling the boat up to the lake at the time.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Raydar on April 29, 2020, 09:08:07 am
...
And on the original subject;  I happen to drive by the Duluth Diner yesterday around 11:30am and they had a huge banner at the road that proclaimed they were open and had about 10 cars in the front parking lot. 

I still think it's too soon. Unless they are carefully arranging guests.
But that's just me.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 29, 2020, 10:34:19 am
Yeah.  I'd feel much safer with just our group gathering at Scott's. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: NoMad on April 29, 2020, 05:08:13 pm
I am planning to come to the meeting at the shop. Will avoid it if at the diner.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on April 29, 2020, 08:50:42 pm
...
Everyone bring a can of Brakeclean for sterilizing purposes (that stuff kills anything).

Can that be injected? You know... like Lysol?

I think I have a can of WD40 with a straw, Im sure we can rig something up.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on April 29, 2020, 08:51:42 pm
so thats 4 firm commitments?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: The Art Doctor on April 30, 2020, 08:41:10 am
I'm in, ill send an email as stated above for the address.  I've lost track in the thread, usual 1:30?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on April 30, 2020, 08:42:36 am
Meeting time is 10 AM. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on April 30, 2020, 06:16:21 pm
Charlie will send the address, be aware that you cant see the shop from the road. Look at the satellite view on google earth to see it more clearly. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 04, 2020, 12:14:51 pm
Anyone have an accurate count?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on May 04, 2020, 12:27:15 pm
Counting you, 6 said yes, and 3 maybe's.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Slyp on May 04, 2020, 01:07:42 pm
I'll pass this time it's to soon for me, and I probable be in the way.......
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 04, 2020, 03:33:54 pm
I'll pass this time it's to soon for me, and I probable be in the way.......

Theres plenty of room for you to park a chair......
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 05:35:56 pm
We need pictures.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 04, 2020, 06:50:33 pm
We need pictures.

Bring your camera  ;)
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 07:47:20 pm
Hmmm.  I have to finish 30 engines per day, between now and the 16th, to get the newsletter done.  Can't stay at a hotel, anyway, and the driving just does not work.  Also, it is Mother's Day weekend.

It is not possible to get through 30 engines in 5 hours.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 08, 2020, 09:21:53 pm
may ask everyone to bring a roll of toilet paper with them...... Walmart was bare this evening
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 08, 2020, 10:51:45 pm
Plenty of nice, green leaves on the trees.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Raydar on May 09, 2020, 09:23:10 am
may ask everyone to bring a roll of toilet paper with them...... Walmart was bare this evening

Tammy said that Sams has plenty. TP and paper towels.  You can buy it by the bale.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: TopNotch on May 09, 2020, 09:43:35 pm
Some pictures from today's meeting..



Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 10, 2020, 05:24:10 pm
I want to thank everyone for coming out yesterday. Its good to see everyone getting out and about again.

I also need to say thanks for the TP..... should be enough to last a couple of meetings

I believe it was agreed that we will do it again in June?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on May 10, 2020, 10:23:09 pm
I'll be up there any Saturday you'll let me in the door. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on May 10, 2020, 10:25:47 pm
I would also like to extend a special thanks to Mark (mweldon) and Zack (NoMad) for all the work they did.  Two talented guys.  If they're ever unemployed they can make a living doing automotive repair of almost any kind. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: NoMad on May 10, 2020, 11:12:34 pm
Your words are very kind, but I am but a rank amateur. This is a hobby but one I greatly enjoy.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: mweldon on May 11, 2020, 07:36:27 pm
Your words are very kind, but I am but a rank amateur. This is a hobby but one I greatly enjoy.

What he said....  :D
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 12, 2020, 08:03:36 am
It seems that this poor Fiero got pushed around a lot.  In one pic, the lift is well in the background, but in another pic, the Fiero is on the lift.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on May 12, 2020, 08:30:00 am
It got pushed even more than you see.  When the drivetrain was dropped, the car was lowered onto a buggy and pushed back to the end of the building where the front of the car is pointed.  The drivetrain and replacement engine were located near the chain hoist. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: mweldon on May 12, 2020, 12:27:34 pm
FieroFool,

I was thinking more about the squirrelyness of the SE we were working on this past weekend.  On top of the less than optimal left rear cradle bolt solution we found, what condition are the cradle bushings?

Not sure if you're willing to throw down $40-60$ for a set of poly cradle bushings from ProThane but if anyone has a spare set or if anyone has some urethane mix we could perhaps mold a set for pennies on the dollar.  I know when I rebuilt an 87GT suspension from top to bottom 25 years ago, koni, eibachs, bearings, new control arm bushings, and needle bearings in the rear LCA's the squirrelyness did not go away until I replaced the cradle bushings...

Edit: Furthermore, I've read where you can stack and weld jumbo washers in the pockets to get a solid mount like the 88's.  Might be even cheaper...

food for thought....
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on May 12, 2020, 03:34:18 pm
I finally got the handling problem resolved.  I chased Scott's 86SE, Jason's 3800SC and Jordan's 85GT through The Dragon without any issues.  I had a set of ProThane Reds for the rear of the cradle, but I don't know what I did with them.  I'll order a kit.  I don't care to go through the trouble of replacing the bushings in the front of the cradle, though so someone can have those if they want.  It's just more time that the shop is tied up.  We need to get Scott's Formula clutch replaced. 
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 12, 2020, 03:34:49 pm
Hey Mark, forgot to say it was good to meet you..... sitting here thinking about it, I wonder if that bolt had worked loose and was letting the cradle move? I had driven that car before and it break loose for what seemed ti be no reason.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Raydar on May 12, 2020, 04:58:54 pm
Charlie... If you're going to replace cradle bushings, you ought to just get solid aluminum pieces.
Remember, the 88 cradles are solid mounted, right out of the box.
Just an opinion.
http://rodneydickman.com/product_info.php?products_id=270
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 12, 2020, 06:37:59 pm
FieroFool,

I was thinking more about the squirrelyness of the SE we were working on this past weekend.  On top of the less than optimal left rear cradle bolt solution we found, what condition are the cradle bushings?


For years, I had been wondering about road squirrels.  Apparently, they just need some bushings.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 12, 2020, 08:59:45 pm
It seems that this poor Fiero got pushed around a lot.  In one pic, the lift is well in the background, but in another pic, the Fiero is on the lift.

it is easy to move when ya gots one of these:



it also makes them easy to load on a rollback
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: scottb on May 12, 2020, 09:34:19 pm
  We need to get Scott's Formula clutch replaced.

"We" do????? new club project?
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Raydar on May 12, 2020, 11:02:41 pm

"We" do????? new club project?

Why not?
I'll help where I can.
Title: Re: May Club Meeting
Post by: Fierofool on May 14, 2020, 08:27:00 am
FieroFool,



Not sure if you're willing to throw down $40-60$ for a set of poly cradle bushings from ProThane but if anyone has a spare set or if anyone has some urethane mix we could perhaps mold a set for pennies on the dollar.
Edit: Furthermore, I've read where you can stack and weld jumbo washers in the pockets to get a solid mount like the 88's.  Might be even cheaper...

food for thought....

Does anyone have a pair of bushings for the back end of the cradle?  If you do, I'll trade you a full set for them.  ProThane called me and said they were out of stock and my bushings wouldn't be available for another 2 to 4 weeks. 

How hard is it to just tip the cradle down and swap out the rear bushings at a later date, keeping in mind of the cage nut repair that's being done?  I don't want to put solid bushings in.  The car is apparently lowered and rides harshly enough as it presently sits. 
FieroFool,



For years, I had been wondering about road squirrels.  Apparently, they just need some bushings.

I never gave thought to where this description might have originated, but now, I can imagine it's because of the way a squirrel darts back and forth across the roadway, usually not ending well.