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All Things Fiero => The Market => Topic started by: Fierofool on May 03, 2020, 06:42:04 pm

Title: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 03, 2020, 06:42:04 pm: Does anyone have the timing cover hold down clamp that's needed when changing out the water pump on the V6 engine? Need to borrow one by the time of the May club meeting.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 03, 2020, 08:46:51 pm: I found one for sale on Ebay (https://www.ebay.com/p/1333381983). Buy it now, get it by Thursday.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: scottb on May 03, 2020, 08:50:58 pm: that ad says no longer available
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 03, 2020, 08:58:46 pm: Try this one (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-KD-Tools-KD-3199-GM-2-8L-V-6-Timing-cover-clamp/264563168872?hash=item3d99319668:g:wpMAAOSws11d8EPe), or this one (https://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-2-8-V-6-Timing-Clamp-3199/230443225588?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3D5304e93c6f25499fa6fa04efbe7e911b%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D264563168872%26itm%3D230443225588%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109).
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 03, 2020, 09:10:46 pm: Thank you, Pat. I bought it is why it's sold out.

Just for anyone who might later do a search for one, tag timing cover clamp KD Tools 3199 may help. It looks like that was a regular production item for them in the day. Looks much sturdier than the ones that come with some of the water pumps.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 03, 2020, 09:29:21 pm: I bought one from another seller as a "just in case".
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 03, 2020, 10:11:51 pm: I'll put mine in the Tools For Loan when I'm finished so others can use it, too. It was suggested that I purchase a water pump, use the clamp then return everything for credit. I couldn't find any water pumps that come with the clamp, any more.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 03, 2020, 10:24:35 pm: I found another one on ebay. Seller is stormy_56fords

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KD-TOOLS-3199-GM-2-8L-V-6-TIMING-COVER-CLAMP/302932772327?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D12%26asc%3D20140905073823%26meid%3Da1958e14c6b640c0bcf169e5ed0084d9%26pid%3D100284%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D302932772327%26itm%3D302932772327%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2508447%26brand%3DKD&_trksid=p2508447.c100284.m3505
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 07:47:57 pm: I could really use a picture of the clamp installed.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: scottb on May 04, 2020, 07:59:58 pm: Quote from: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 07:47:57 pm
I could really use a picture of the clamp installed.

I wont say it......... :P
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 08:03:05 pm: But you thought it... ::)
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: scottb on May 04, 2020, 08:05:03 pm: Of course I did
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 08:14:51 pm: A few pictures does not seem a lot to ask. I have made two 20-hour (driving time) trips there. I'm not just around the corner.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: NoMad on May 04, 2020, 08:54:24 pm: I will bring my full kit and shoot photos of the events and any specifics you might ask for. Just shoot me a list.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 08:56:22 pm: Thanks, NoMad.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: NoMad on May 04, 2020, 08:58:37 pm: Have to put that silly piece of paper to use some time...
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 04, 2020, 09:32:06 pm: It's difficult for me to remember to take pictures when I'm involved. I would have to set out to do a photodocumentary to be successful.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 11:49:45 pm: Yep, that happened with me, too. My wife had to remind me, if you recall. MikeMac thought that was funny.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: MikeMac on May 05, 2020, 12:50:23 am: Anytime I see a post with a lot of pictures I just imagine GTRS Fiero seeing all those pictures and reacting like the first part of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=b13YGy8ewCw&feature=emb_logo

For some reason the video starts at 4 seconds, you have to rewind it to zero to get the full effect.

LOL
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 06, 2020, 11:26:57 am: I received my clamp today. I will bring it to the meeting if Charlie doesn't get his
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 06, 2020, 04:58:27 pm: Mine is supposed to be here Friday. I'm going over to work on Friday but the WP can wait til Saturday.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 06, 2020, 05:43:03 pm: Quote from: GTRS Fiero on May 04, 2020, 07:47:57 pm
I could really use a picture of the clamp installed.
How about a scan of the drawing on the blister pack. Mine was kind of worn, and the drawing is only 2" high, but I managed to get this:
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 06, 2020, 05:46:35 pm: That is very interesting. Not a Fiero, obviously. The purpose of the picture is to show usage in a Fiero.

The angle of the bolt in the bracket is interesting.

Thanks for the effort, though.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 06, 2020, 08:40:11 pm: It could be on a 3.1 or 3.4. Works for all 3. I can see the bolt being at some slight angle as the clamp is tightened down.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 06, 2020, 09:48:23 pm: Perhaps the clamp was added as a hand drawing to an existing engine drawing, and whoever drew it didn't get the angle correct.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 06, 2020, 10:31:57 pm: I think so. Beyond my skill.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 07, 2020, 06:15:37 pm: Got my clamp today, Pat.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 09, 2020, 09:47:21 pm: Charlie used his clamp at today's meeting...
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 09, 2020, 09:52:26 pm: Excellent. It looks as if it still had to be modified. Also, it appears that the CTS would have had to be removed.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 09, 2020, 10:13:45 pm: You are correct on both. I tried to install it but the CTS was in the way. I removed it and the bolt was at an angle to the hole, so I had to grind off an area to get it to clear the ridge on the timing cover. Once that was done, it worked perfectly.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 09, 2020, 10:33:11 pm: I wonder if it would have to be modified on a 2.8 (which this engine isn't).
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 09, 2020, 10:36:30 pm: Just the area closest to the clamp bolt, it appears.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: TopNotch on May 09, 2020, 10:45:53 pm: If the bolt hole is in a slightly difference place on a 2.8, the mod may not be needed.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 09, 2020, 10:51:54 pm: Perhaps, but it wouldn't get much of a bite on the timing cover. Moving the bolt hole along the length of the clamp does not allow space for that hump. Moving the hole closer to the lower edge would only put a corner on the timing cover.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: Fierofool on May 09, 2020, 11:19:16 pm: The timing cover came from an early 2.8. The block bolts are identical to a 2.8. So, yes, I believe it would need to be modified.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 08, 2020, 08:38:39 pm: Quote from: MikeMac on May 05, 2020, 12:50:23 am
Anytime I see a post with a lot of pictures I just imagine GTRS Fiero seeing all those pictures and reacting like the first part of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=b13YGy8ewCw&feature=emb_logo

For some reason the video starts at 4 seconds, you have to rewind it to zero to get the full effect.

LOL

It starts at 4 seconds, because of the "time_continue=4" parameter.
Title: Re: Timing Cover Clamp
Post by: PK on November 09, 2020, 01:50:55 pm: Too late but I posted up the template that came with my water pump on pff and also posted up measurements. Will find linky dink of reqd.