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All Things Fiero => Expert Tech Advice => Topic started by: GTRS Fiero on June 15, 2020, 07:31:34 pm
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Has anyone tried a gel battery in their Fiero? If so, which one? How did you like (or dislike) it?
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The maximum voltage you can charge a gel lead 12V battery is about 1/2 volt lower than for a liquid filled 12V battery. If you exceed the maximum voltage, it will go bad quickly. If it "boils" any at all, it's permanently destroyed.
My late wife had a "granny cart" powered by two 12V gel batteries the size of tractor batteries. This particular cart is much faster than the ones in stores. I almost had to run to keep up when she went full speed. When the gel batteries went bad, I got a couple of Walmart tractor batteries for it. It still works.
The manual that came with it warned of over charging the gel batteries. I never did -- they just died of old age.
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I remember seeing her flying around the World Congress Center when we displayed in the World of Wheels. I was afraid she was going to run someone down. That thing had the speed of a moped.
I don't know what batteries are in Mel's power chair, but the charger has an automatic shutoff when it's charged. It will then trickle charge if left connected to power. I have another chair that has lead acid batteries in it. When we got the newer chair, they died due to non-use and cold weather in the garage. I think when I replace them, I'll get deep cycle batteries. I wonder how a deep cycle battery would work in a car.
Edit: I just did some searching and I found that a deep cycle battery only delivers about 1/2 to 3/4 the cold cranking amps of a car battery and puts an overload on the alternator to keep it fully charged.
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If the voltage is a bit low, I wonder what happens? Surely the voltage regulator could charge a bit lower, but I'd prefer something separate to protect the battery.
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I will be going to AGM or Lithium ion when I finish my 88. Used them in almost everything by now and been happy with both.
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I will be going to AGM or Lithium ion when I finish my 88. Used them in almost everything by now and been happy with both.
I had an Optima yellow-top in my car until a few months ago. It got to the point that it didn't have any reserve left. Just sitting for 2-3 weeks, powering nothing but the ECM, would allow it to go flat.
I replaced it with an AGM Duracell battery. We'll see how it goes.
I wanted a sealed battery since it's mounted in the front compartment.
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I had an Optima yellow-top in my car until a few months ago. It got to the point that it didn't have any reserve left. Just sitting for 2-3 weeks, powering nothing but the ECM, would allow it to go flat.
I replaced it with an AGM Duracell battery. We'll see how it goes.
I wanted a sealed battery since it's mounted in the front compartment.
These both show as AGM top-mount batteries. Are they gel batteries? The Optima appears to be.
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I will be going to AGM or Lithium ion when I finish my 88. Used them in almost everything by now and been happy with both.
What is the benefit of Li-On batteries over stock lead-acid?
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These both show as AGM top-mount batteries. Are they gel batteries? The Optima appears to be.
I never thought the Optima was a gel battery. They're advertised (unless I've had too much kool-aid to drink) as AGM.
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I will be going to AGM or Lithium ion when I finish my 88. Used them in almost everything by now and been happy with both.
Weight. The last one I put in was less than 1/4 the weight and worked just as well if not better. Lasted about the same amount of time too. More costly though.
What is the benefit of Li-On batteries over stock lead-acid?
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So, if leaks, does the same damage?
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Weight. The last one I put in was less than 1/4 the weight and worked just as well if not better.
Conversely, the Optima battery was the heaviest freaking battery I have moved in... decades?
I don't remember the Duracell AGM being that heavy.
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This is a lithium-ion jump starter. I have used it to start cars with dead batteries a couple of times. As you can see, it's quite a bit smaller than a 12V lead-acid battery big enough to start a car. It's also quite a bit lighter.

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Li-ion are fully sealed batteries. Then can be mounted in any orientation without issues. No leaking. I think AGM are the same but not 100% on that.
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Sounds like what I want.
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This is a lithium-ion jump starter. I have used it to start cars with dead batteries a couple of times. As you can see, it's quite a bit smaller than a 12V lead-acid battery big enough to start a car. It's also quite a bit lighter.
I guess mine is the same, only a Scorpion.
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Despite everything else, I've been doing some research on batteries. Apparently, AGM is the way to go, for the Fiero. I'm keeping this brief, so no one thinks I'm rambling.