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Title: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 23, 2021, 03:55:56 pm
What happened to it?  Is it still good?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on January 23, 2021, 05:29:47 pm
I believe it's still good. The fire doesn't appear to have gotten around the bottom of the engine compartment.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 23, 2021, 05:31:22 pm
Hmmm.  I may want the tank, if it's in good condition.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on January 23, 2021, 05:36:15 pm
I'll take $100 for it if you come pull it. If Raydar decides he wants the clip, you can be a part of the stripping party.  ;D
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 23, 2021, 06:01:32 pm
Do I need to decide before the tank comes out, or could I wait until after I see the condition?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on January 23, 2021, 09:25:36 pm
You can pull it & inspect it, & decide from there. I just remembered I have another '88 (IIRC) that was a running car. You can pull that tank if you like. I'll post in Raydar's thread about it too.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 23, 2021, 09:27:48 pm
It occurs to me that my presence as an out-of-towner during COVID time may prrvent others from attending.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on January 23, 2021, 09:31:44 pm
As long as you've been taking precautions & not likely to have the virus I think it'll be OK.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 23, 2021, 09:36:00 pm
Where I live has more stringent lockdowns than there, it seems.  If I am sick, or likely exposed, I won't go.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: mweldon on January 24, 2021, 10:49:27 am
Assuming that the warrior car is an 88 id like to buy the coolant tubes if in fair to good condition.  I have to cut and reverse mine to support the 3.6 swap.  Always good to have a set of spares when cutting and rewelding something like these.  If I don't need them after purchase ill hold onto them for club.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on January 24, 2021, 02:04:42 pm
Assuming that the warrior car is an 88 id like to buy the coolant tubes if in fair to good condition.  I have to cut and reverse mine to support the 3.6 swap.  Always good to have a set of spares when cutting and rewelding something like these.  If I don't need them after purchase ill hold onto them for club.

How does $30 sound if you come pull them?
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: mweldon on January 28, 2021, 10:09:41 am
Assuming that the warrior car is an 88 id like to buy the coolant tubes if in fair to good condition.  I have to cut and reverse mine to support the 3.6 swap.  Always good to have a set of spares when cutting and rewelding something like these.  If I don't need them after purchase ill hold onto them for club.

How does $30 sound if you come pull them?
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)

sounds like a plan...  I'll join the stripping party... :o

On another note, do you have any of the slide lock fender vents in stock?  if not what's necessary to put in an order?  :)
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on February 02, 2021, 12:29:55 am
Assuming that the warrior car is an 88 id like to buy the coolant tubes if in fair to good condition.  I have to cut and reverse mine to support the 3.6 swap.  Always good to have a set of spares when cutting and rewelding something like these.  If I don't need them after purchase ill hold onto them for club.

How does $30 sound if you come pull them?
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)

sounds like a plan...  I'll join the stripping party... :o

On another note, do you have any of the slide lock fender vents in stock?  if not what's necessary to put in an order?  :)

I have a set made but my jigs for the flanges broke so I can't add the flanges on the back. You'd just glue them on as usual then add some 'glass to the back to reinforce them & seal out moisture. $95 for the pair.
Thanks,
Paul
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on February 02, 2021, 08:08:30 am
What do the slide lock fender vents look like?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on February 02, 2021, 04:14:43 pm
But... I'm out of materials & won't be able to make any new parts for a while.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: mweldon on February 02, 2021, 05:45:40 pm
ETA on materials or have to have a certain number of orders queue up?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on February 03, 2021, 12:20:29 am
ETA on materials or have to have a certain number of orders queue up?

Not anytime soon. ;-(
I'll need about a grand & I still owe $469 last year's property tax. Plus my friend with a pickup died so I have no way to pick up the materials once I get the money (if I ever do).
Really sucks that materials cost so much...
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: mweldon on February 03, 2021, 10:15:59 am
Hopefully our stripping party :D will help out...

Anyone have an idea as to when we want to all come out and make that happen?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on February 03, 2021, 04:02:12 pm
Hopefully our stripping party :D will help out...

Anyone have an idea as to when we want to all come out and make that happen?

I don't think Raydar has decided if he wants the rear clip or not...
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 03, 2021, 05:44:24 pm
But... I'm out of materials & won't be able to make any new parts for a while.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I've wanted to add those to my Fiero, but lack the skill to do so.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 03, 2021, 05:45:01 pm
Hopefully our stripping party :D will help out...

Anyone have an idea as to when we want to all come out and make that happen?

I'm curious when that will be, myself.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 03, 2021, 05:45:21 pm
Hopefully our stripping party :D will help out...

Anyone have an idea as to when we want to all come out and make that happen?

I don't think Raydar has decided if he wants the rear clip or not...
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Suspect more to do with COVID.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Raydar on February 03, 2021, 08:43:51 pm
Covid is the prime consideration. I know people who have died. I'm not in that much of a hurry to do this. Just not. (My apologies if I'm holding up the show.)

The other consideration is that I'm almost 3 hours away from Paul's.
I don't mind helping to strip a car, but I don't want to make the drive two days in a row, if it runs long.
I also have to "sawzall" the azz off the car, once it's all disassembled. That, by itself, could run into some time, even though it could be done (theoretically) with just two cross-cuts. (I tried cutting the rear quarter off of a Miata, once. Was a lot more trouble than you might expect. Certainly more than *I* expected.)

I also have a bunch of stuff piled on my trailer, that I have to get removed. (Not anybody's problem but my own. But still...) I'm not entirely sure about the rear 1/3 of a space frame fitting in a 5.5' crew cab bed. Will be a lot easier to load onto a trailer, anyway.

So... that's MY story.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 03, 2021, 09:10:37 pm
Not holding up *my* show.  Getting a fuel tank out is one thing.  Getting it back here is quite another.  Something like 20 hours, round trip, plus removing the tank.

And it's cold outside.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: TopNotch on February 03, 2021, 09:43:20 pm
If anybody's interested, there's a fuel tank in my parts car.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on February 03, 2021, 09:53:35 pm
You just want us to show up and start stripping... buddy you better have a lot of ones!
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 03, 2021, 09:54:28 pm
There are several things in play. 
1. Your parts Fiero could run again.  MWeldon may be interested.
2. Tha Driver apparently needs the money.
3. The only thing wrong with my tank is that is has a broken baffle, so I am not in a hurry, but do want to correct this issue.
4. For me, getting time to drive there and such will likely be the hardest part.
5. Did I mention the cold?
6. Likely, I would go as part of Raydar's project.
7. If I am there, others may not go, due to COVID risks.  I can wear a mask, but not for long, and certainly not while exerting myself.  Being honest, people from other areas are an increased risk.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 03, 2021, 09:58:48 pm
You just want us to show up and start stripping... buddy you better have a lot of ones!

I hope your spouse has a good sense of humor.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on February 03, 2021, 10:43:19 pm
Not as good as mine. 😂
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Raydar on February 04, 2021, 07:05:07 am
I guess one question is how bad the damage is, from the fire.
Was the rear clip damaged? The roof panel? Any interior pieces?
Did the back window shatter?

If pieces like the rear clip don't have to be removed "gracefully", it will save a great deal of time. Obviously, we don't want to trash good pieces that Paul could sell. 
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Fierofool on February 04, 2021, 11:26:12 am
Steve, what I remember of the car is that the rear clip wasn't badly damaged.  There was a little damage to the roofline above the rear window.  The rear window did shatter, but that might have been due to water hitting a hot window.  There really wasn't a lot of fire damage inside the car, so I think the window was intact until the water hit it.  One of the buttresses was in good condition.  The trunk carpeting wasn't harmed/burned.  The fire didn't get through to the fender wells.  Paul may be able to send you a picture. 

Found this thread about the fire, with pictures.

http://www.gafiero.org/bbs/index.php?topic=2915.msg27362#msg27362
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on February 20, 2021, 01:30:56 pm
The car has several parts (like the rockers & 1/4's) already removed. Plus theres nothing to save in the engine compartment so we can cut any hanging wires & all rubber hoses. I think 4 people could have the rear clip cut off in about 2 hours.
Put it on jackstands, have one person go to work on the rear wheels & inner liners, another on the gas tank & coolant tubes, another in the interior on the seats, 4 plastic trim pieces, & seat belts, & the fourth on the taillights, rear bumper, & reinforcement. We can leave the rear (roof) clip on the frame along with the gas filler tube. Whoever gets done first can start on the shift cable, brake line (I'd like to save that for my VW) & the 4 cradle bolts & 6 strut nuts. Cut the top off of the sail panels & horizontal lines at the bottom of the rear window & across the floor pan & it's done. We don't even have to slide the cradle out, just lift the clip off of it.
This way everyone is working on separate areas & keeping social distancing.
I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple of things...
You DO have some "demolition" blades for your sawzall, right Steve? ;-)
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on February 20, 2021, 01:39:09 pm
One other thing. Maybe someone could ship the gas tank to GTRS so he won't have to drive the 20 hours (ouch!). We only need three people other than myself to get this done.   :P
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 20, 2021, 02:16:42 pm
Shipping is expensive.  Not sure gas tanks are legal to ship.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 20, 2021, 04:43:12 pm
Other issues:
1. I have to stop about every hour.  This is something that developed in the last week.
2. I only have 1 vehicle that can carry a gas tank: my truck.

My truck needs tires.  Unfortunately, these stock tires are special--so special, in fact, that only one place makes the tires.  Unfortunately, that place is closed for COVID, and the tires are out of stock everywhere.  My tires are not down to the wear indicators, but this is my daily driver, so I need the tires to last.  I drive my truck a bit more than 3K miles per month, so tires only last a bit more than a year (about 65K miles).
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: scottb on February 20, 2021, 07:35:15 pm
Does that truck identify as a Bugatti Veyron?????

What is so special about those tires?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 20, 2021, 07:52:22 pm
Just a standard truck, I thought.  Stock tires.  A set runs about $1,800.  14-ply.  20-inch.

They ride very rough.  I'd like to change to higher-profile tires.  I'm used to paying about $1,500 for a set of truck tires.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: scottb on February 20, 2021, 08:02:26 pm
14 ply??????? Is it an F550?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 20, 2021, 08:24:25 pm
No.  Just a half-ton, with heavy-duty brakes, a tow package, and goofy wheels.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: scottb on February 20, 2021, 08:52:22 pm
I wouldn't be putting 14 ply tires on a 1/2 ton, my 3/4 ton Dodge doesn't have those. I'm sure you can find a better tire for it somewhere...... and they shouldn't $1500 either
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 20, 2021, 08:57:10 pm
Well, cheap tires for my Avalanche could run less.  Junk brands. Toyo, Yokohama, and the like.  I used Michelin.  This truck has beefier tires.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Tha Driver on March 04, 2021, 01:48:46 pm
On another note, do you have any of the slide lock fender vents in stock?  if not what's necessary to put in an order?  :)

Sent you a PM.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Raydar on March 06, 2021, 11:23:38 pm
Well, cheap tires for my Avalanche could run less.  Junk brands. Toyo, Yokohama, and the like.  I used Michelin.  This truck has beefier tires.

I had good luck, and good life, from Yokohamas on my old Sonoma. They were low profile passenger car tires, however. 245/50-16.
Toyos, OTOH, are probably the worst tires I have ever owned. Even the "softer compound" low profile tires were hard as a rock. downright noisy, and really frightening in the rain. This was on my G6. The Toyos on my truck ('05 Silverado 1500) were good for keeping the rim off the ground, and not much else.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 15, 2021, 06:30:17 pm
I had parked my truck, because the cords were showing, and I still can't get the right tires.  In the meantime, I had been driving my wife's truck, but she needed her truck today.

Obviously, I need my own ride, so tires must be found.  I found tires for about $800 that will physically fit, but no shop will mount the tires, if I take the truck in.  So, I had to take the wheels off the truck, and haul the wheels to the tire shop.  Of course, everywhere is backed up, so it will be a few days until I can get the wheels back.  Meanwhile, my truck is sitting on jack stands.

I try to be legal, but these tires are not, for my truck.  I hope there are no issues.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: TopNotch on April 15, 2021, 09:07:43 pm
Of course, everywhere is backed up, so it will be a few days until I can get the wheels back.  Meanwhile, my truck is sitting on jack stands.
Don't tire shops there let you make appointments? When I recently got new tires for my yellow Fiero, I made an appointment with the tire shop online. The appointment was foe a couple of days later, and they did the job in a reasonable amount of time, while I had lunch. For Fieros, I remove the wheels and take them to the tire shop in my SUV. No risk to my coolant pipes that way.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 15, 2021, 09:32:52 pm
Oh, yes.  We can make appointments, but most shops are booked.  Many schedule 3 months out, meaning you need to schedule three months ahead of time.  Technically, my wheels are scheduled for Saturday, but I'm hoping the shop can squeeze the wheels in sooner.  I hate mounting tires (and am not particularly good at it), so guess I have to wait.  It is a difficulty for me to get to a shop between when I get off work and when the shops close.

Someone suggested pulling wheels off a truck in the junkyard, but not doing that.

The shops with no waiting are usually not shops I'd let touch my vehicles.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: scottb on April 15, 2021, 09:48:52 pm
Bob Ueker voice: Juuuuusssssssst a bit off-topic
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 15, 2021, 09:50:45 pm
Sortof.  To get the tank, I need my truck.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 10, 2021, 06:45:36 pm
Is it detrimental to the tank to remove the sending unit several times?  I can't drive my Fiero anywhere.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Fierofool on May 10, 2021, 07:58:34 pm
Probably the only thing harmed might be the O-ring seal. 
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 10, 2021, 08:12:56 pm
That can be replaced.  My Fiero is less fun when it can't be driven.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 17, 2021, 06:26:38 pm
Well, it seems that Rodney is making reproduction gas tanks.  I'm supposed to be in the initial batch.  So, we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on May 18, 2021, 07:30:42 am
Well, it seems that Rodney is making reproduction gas tanks.  I'm supposed to be in the initial batch.  So, we'll see what happens.

Isn’t there two size tanks? 8 and 11???
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 18, 2021, 07:46:13 am
Rodney is making only the larger size tanks.  With baffles.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on May 18, 2021, 08:07:24 am
Rodney is making only the larger size tanks.  With baffles.

What is he charging ?
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 18, 2021, 08:09:02 am
Less than $400.  Dunno.
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: Fierofool on May 18, 2021, 08:40:41 am
Well, it seems that Rodney is making reproduction gas tanks.  I'm supposed to be in the initial batch.  So, we'll see what happens.

Isn’t there two size tanks? 8 and 11???

The general consensus is that the tank capacities are 10 and 12 gallon with each having a usable volume of 8 and 10 gallon, respectively.  The larger capacity tank will fit into the earlier models with only a minor mod of the mounts.  I'm sure Rodney has worked all that out to make the installation as simple as possible. 
Title: Re: Warrior car fuel tank?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 18, 2021, 06:32:30 pm
It used to be, around 350 miles, Iwould fill up with 11.6 gallons of fuel.  It's getting even with me now, though.  Can't go anywhere.