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88 Charity Project Cars
« on: April 28, 2014, 04:02:00 pm »
You all know about the 88 Formula and GT that  former Georgia Fieros member Mike Barr has donated to Georgia Fieros, but here's a little background on them.

The Formula originally belonged to and was built by Dave Bellville, who was also a former Georgia Fieros member.  It has a 2.8 bored 40 over, a high lift cam and a Borla Exhaust System.  Five-speed Getrag.

The GT has belonged to Mike Barr for some time and has been his Fiero pride.  Dickman lowering ball joints and Eibach lowering springs.  Automatic. 

Both have been sitting for 3 or 4 years and the elements haven't been kind to them.  The GT is planned to go to a deserving person in need of transportation.  The future of the Formula hasn't been decided, though a few have expressed interest in purchasing it.  Here are a few pictures of the two.








The Formula after a wash job. We may have to up the ante on this one after it's cleaned up.



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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2014, 06:02:37 pm »
That's a sharp looking Fiero.
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2014, 09:09:57 pm »
I remember Dave's car. I believe he described it as a 3.4 (home-made from a bored and stroked 2.8, IIRC.)
It's the first time I ever heard a cammed 3.4 through, an Ocelot exhaust. Lust at first sight. Uhhh... sound.
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2014, 09:35:41 pm »
I am looking forward to working on both of these.
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2014, 08:11:17 am »
I'm starting a new thread for the 88GT Wounded Warrior Project car.  There's lots of info I want to convey and I think the GT and Formula will go in different directions and at different time frames.
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2014, 03:45:59 pm »
Ray and I worked on the Formula for a little while yesterday afternoon.  Got the ignition components bolted down and leaves cleaned off the engine.  We had to fill and bleed the clutch system since there was no fluid in the reservoir. 

After the clutch, we placed it in 4th gear and pushed it forward a little at a time to get the engine to rotate and see if there was any resistance.  None, and it seemed fine.

We then put jumpers on and gave the throttle body a few spritzes of carb and brake cleaner.  It took a half dozen or so attempts, but we finally got the engine to fire off.  It would only run if cleaner was being sprayed into the throttle body.  I'm guessing that the fuel pump needs to be replaced, but it sounded good for the 5-10 seconds I could keep it running. 
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2015, 01:22:04 pm »
The tail lights on the Formula are badly delaminated.  I bought the ones from the gold 86 at Lance Wrecker.  They have a little delamination and the right one has a crack, but they're better than what's on the car.  I didn't realize it was cracked until they delivered them to me, yesterday afternoon. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2015, 07:23:32 am »
The problem is......If you do too much work to the formula, then you'll drive it out of my price range ;)
Am I correct in wondering where the notchback-ness of it has gone?
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2015, 08:24:53 am »
I don't think the price has gone up.  The tail lights are ones I bought off the 86 GT that I recently posted about.  The money came from my pocket and was donated to the car. 

I do think there are some things on the Formula that need to be changed.  The fiberglass quarter window replacements create a big blind spot, even though the air intake in it might help to pull hot air from the engine bay.  The big A-10 Warthog air intake on the side needs to be removed, too. 

I don't know when this one was converted to the fastback, but it may have even preceded Raydar's conversion.  Personally, I think active club members should have first shot at the car at a lower price and if no one wants it, then the price goes up for any one outside the club. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2015, 12:37:40 pm »
This one predates my conversion by probably 5 years.
It was at least a partial inspiration.
It was also when I discovered how good a fat cam, no cat, and an Ocelot exhaust sounded. Have you heard it run, yet?
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2015, 02:34:49 pm »
We've only had it running long enough to know that it runs.  Carb or brake cleaner down the intake.  The fuel pump is bad. 
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2015, 11:53:35 pm »
OK, the GT has been delivered and we still have the Fastback Formula.  General consensus is that we sell the car. 

Roger and I recently installed a new fuel pump so it would run on it's own.  These are the things I know it needs at the moment.

The tilt column needs to be replaced.  It feels like it's held together with cable ties.  Maybe Slowburn57 has one in his collection.
The battery is absolutely totally dead.  I killed my truck battery and had to buy a new one from jumping and running the car off the truck.
Does anyone have a good used battery to sell to the club, or I can go to a manufacturer here in Winder and pick up one for about $70. 
The car has a skip.  Could be anything from a stuck injector to bad plugs or wires. 

Let's discuss this at the September club meeting.
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2015, 01:18:56 am »
have you decided what the active member lower price is?
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2015, 08:26:46 am »
That's probably something we need to determine at the meeting, too.  I think we at least need to be sure the engine runs good before setting a price and selling it.  I wouldn't want to sell it with a bad engine. 
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Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2015, 10:48:49 am »
Sorry guy don't have a steering column.