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Author Topic: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!  (Read 24864 times)

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2016, 03:08:48 pm »
This is my engine during conversion.  You can see the coil pack at the upper left.  I think it's in the original position.  It won't fit in that position on the Fiero, unless the battery is relocated.  Ron's location or even mounted on the trunk wall works very well in the Fiero. 
« Last Edit: October 23, 2016, 03:10:34 pm by Fierofool »
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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2016, 03:21:53 pm »
Probably a lot less heat in the stock location, because the Y-pipe, or crossover pipe or whatever it is isn't under it, and the manifold is going the other way.

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2016, 08:12:30 pm »
Stock location is preferred, but as Fierofool mentioned, it wasn't available. There's a mount that the mini vans had that mounts the coils over the valve cover, but then it hides the beautiful valve covers!
Redline in the $24a programming is set at 6013rpm from the factory. I was using bawx $88 set at 6300 rpm from the factory for the 3100 motor. I'm going to change it back to 6k because I'm nervous it'll spin a bearing.
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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2016, 08:29:53 pm »
Good to know about the $88 RPM.

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2016, 06:05:31 pm »
I haven't got one yet. I'll add the egr back after the tune is done, then tune for egr.

Something just occurred to me.  Will the EGR still fit?  Is it close to the coil pack?

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2016, 12:54:42 pm »
I dunno. I guess a pic is in order!
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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2017, 08:28:57 pm »
EGR in?  Pic?

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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2017, 06:51:04 am »
No egr yet and no pic. I keep forgetting!
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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2017, 07:38:27 pm »
This is my engine during conversion.  You can see the coil pack at the upper left.  I think it's in the original position.  It won't fit in that position on the Fiero, unless the battery is relocated.  Ron's location or even mounted on the trunk wall works very well in the Fiero. 


What is that tube along the bottom?  Is there a way to keep your EGR looking nice? Did you clean up the block, or install like this?  Is the EGR on a stalk?  Is the flywheel normally that rusty?

Do you still have an ICM?

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2017, 09:49:39 pm »
I don't know what the tube is for.  That engine is the way it's dressed out in the Camaro.  I only used the block, heads and oil pan and transferred everything else from my 2.8 onto it.  It now looks lika a stock Fiero V6, sitting in my 87.  There are several versions of that EGR.  Some have covers encasing them.

This engine sat in a wrecked car for about 3 or 4 months before I bought it, so the flywheel probably accumulated a little rust, but generally, they are rusty in the areas you see.
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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2017, 10:37:52 pm »
Are you asking about the tube that wraps around the end of the engine?
It looks a lot like the air injection tubes that I have seen on other engines. It's plumbed into the exhaust manifolds. It's used to blow fresh air into the manifolds, in order to help burn excessive unburned fuel that may still be in there, when the engine is cold.

Aka "smog pump lines".

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2017, 11:18:56 pm »

This engine sat in a wrecked car for about 3 or 4 months before I bought it, so the flywheel probably accumulated a little rust, but generally, they are rusty in the areas you see.

Does your engine look that rusty, now?

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2017, 11:49:06 pm »
No. 

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2.    The few who learn by observation.
3.    The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves.    Will Rogers

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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2017, 07:53:00 am »
If you convert to DIS, what happens to the ICM?  Or is there something else equally unreliable that takes its place?
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Re: LOOK MA! NO DIZZY!
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2017, 08:22:36 am »
The 3.4 has a crankshaft position sensor in the side of the block closest to the trunk.  It's roughly in the side area of the #3 cylinder wall next to the freeze plug.  That sensor transmits to the ECM.  The ICM is mounted underneath the coilpack.  It's an entirely different style than what we use.  The 7730 ECM takes care of timing adjustments based on crankshaft sensor input. 

I left the crankshaft sensor in mine rather than stop it up with an expandable freeze plug as some folks do.  I also left the low oil sensor in the side of the pan.  I did this to eliminate leaks, and so that I would have the sensors already in place because I had hoped to convert to DIS at some time.  I have everything for the conversion except a knock sensor and the oil pump drive that replaces the distributor. 
There are three kinds of men:

1.    The ones that learn by reading.
2.    The few who learn by observation.
3.    The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves.    Will Rogers