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HELP Getrag Rebuild
« on: October 06, 2016, 08:28:20 am »
Hi Guys I am new to The site, I have An 87 GT 5 speed the transmission needs work , it has a lot of miles on it does any one know some one local that rebuilds getrags?

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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 09:17:11 am »
I've never known of anyone locally that rebuilds them.  Any of the Fiero transmissions, other than the automatic, for that matter.  There's possibly someone in Powder Springs and another in North Carolina.  I'll check with them and post back.  Changing over to the F23 might be a better option, or depending upon your driving style, a more plentiful and cheaper Isuzu 5-speed.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 01:55:42 pm »
Southern Gear, in West Atlanta(?) has rebuilt Getrags in the past. They are NOT inexpensive. (I received an estimate of over $1k. This was over 5 years ago.)
There was another outfit in Florida who sells rebuilt units, but I forget their name.

Another option is a ~'93 "Beretta Getrag" aka New Venture Gear T-550. It is essentially a later generation Getrag. Bolts in to the stock Fiero Getrag mounting brackets. It uses a hydraulic release bearing, instead of the usual slave cylinder and release fork. The differential gears are sturdier than the Fiero (and other earlier) units.
I have one bolted to my 4.9, and really like it.
I can post a link, later on, if you are interested. I can't get to that forum from work.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 04:45:49 pm »
Thanks Guys, any links or names of shops or persons would be appreciated Talked to Southern Gear no longer an option planning to add HP so the Isuzu is not a good option for me, going to check on F23and t-550

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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 08:43:57 pm »
I got confirmation from NC that there is someone there that can do the job.  Waiting to hear back if he can take it on at the moment.  Is the trans out of the car?  Can you get the trans or car up to NC? 
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 09:04:45 pm »
Rodney Dickman sells a rebuild manual for the Getrag. Or, if you have the 88 Helms manual, the info is in there.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 09:46:53 pm »
I may have it on PDF.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 11:20:19 pm »
The word from NC isn't good.  A 1 ton press is needed to separate the shaft from the bellhousing and there are a lot of detent balls that require tooling to hold them in place during assembly.  If lost, they are hard to come by.  He doesn't have the time and recommends that if you have it rebuilt, that you use a very reputable shop.  He suggests just finding a replacement.  I suppose that could include an upgrade.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2016, 08:31:15 am »
Thanks Fierofool for checking, that is the response I am getting from a lot of builders  no longer interested in older five speed repair.
Raydar- could you send a link to the PDF?
Topnotch- I have the helms manual I will check in to it
I am a Machinist by trade I did not want to have to tackle this rebuild ,still looking in to replacing with later model trans  I have 2 -Getrags  one Fiero the other is FWD caviler  if I have to I will build the tools and dive in 
thanks again for the help

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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2016, 08:53:53 am »
Isn't the Cavalier trans the same one used in the Berettas?  Give us regular updates on what you're doing, whether rebuild or transplant.  Pictures are always welcome.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2016, 09:09:04 am »
If all else fails, I've got an 85 Muncie four speed with rock crusher gears I'll sell you. I it'll be about 300 rpm higher on the highway.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2016, 10:35:48 am »
Here's a link to my Beretta Getrag swap. (Yes, the 3.1 Cavalier used the same trans. Several other cars, too.)
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20130314-1-085296.html

Pat, can you host the Getrag rebuild document on the "Fiero Documents" page? It's 18.5 MB.
I don't have any way to share it, and it's probably too big to email.
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2016, 02:19:36 pm »
Can you bring the document to the meeting on a USB key?
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2016, 03:18:43 pm »
Southern Gear
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Re: HELP Getrag Rebuild
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2016, 05:02:10 pm »
Pat, I'll have to see if I have one. Don't use them much.
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