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GTRS Fiero

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Ancestry?
« on: February 05, 2017, 06:38:48 pm »
For those who do ancestry, did any of your ancestors just ”appear”?  I have one ancestor that was born in the US, as were his parents and grandparents, but on the male side, there is no info.  This ancestor was born about 1904, so his parents and grandparents were further back.  Still, nothing.  He was asked, but he just knew the town his ancestors lived in.  The idea that they came from somewhere else drew blank looks.

Now, I know they were born and died, and there are no living relatives in that line, so no more questions can be asked.  They were all cremated.  There are no graves, ergo, no stones.  All we have are birth and obituary notices, and wedding licenses.  We checked doctor records.  There are minimal church records.  We checked immigration.  We checked DNA.

We tried searching from the old country angle, and got exactly nowhere.

We checked various incarceration records.  Nothing.

We did find handwritten records for several months, during which period one ancestor was a sheriff.  The last note was a resignation.

We checked military records.  Several in the Civil War.  Several in Indian Wars.  Several prominently in the War of 1812.  1 in the Mexican War.  2 in WW1.  One in WW2.  We checked various penal colonies.  We checked slave manifests.  We checked ship crews.  We looked for stow-away records.  We looked for indentured servants.

We checked taxes and work records.  We checked census records.

As best as we can tell, they just walked into town one day, and got married a month or so later, then vanished for a few years, to appear a few hundred miles away.  All but one were officers in their branch of service.  After the war, those that lived mostly just vanished.  I figure discharge papers means they were alive.  During the Civil War, one in particular was frequently mentioned.

We have family Bibles.  None of them reference parents or siblings.  Just man, wife, and children.

We looked at the families of the women they married.  Nothing notable, except that the family did not contest or question the match.

The one oddity, was that the pre WW2 relatives did not enlist in their town or even their state.  They went to Virginia.  One served in the White House afterward.

We checked newspaper accounts, and found frequent but sporadic mention.  One particular ancestor was in the paper for a feat, but appeared and vanished, just showing up for that one thing.

We checked supplies, trapper logs, and mining claims.  We checked other property deeds.  We found a smattering of homesteads or property, but not to account for much.

We checked postal records.  Abe Lincoln made special delivery to one ancestor.  There were a few other items.

We checked B&Bs, rentals, hotels, and various livery records.  We found a few interesting love notes that may or may not have reached their intended recipients.  Otherwise, no new info.

We found a note where a relative resigned for a post of some sort, with the intent to leave civilization.  Whomever was the superior with whom the dissagreement occurred, this relative was ordered to be detained for his own well-being, and that of wherever this was.  He was killed by accident more than a thousand miles West of there.  This story was very entertaining.

We found record of a duel.

We checked various political records.  An aide to Andrew Jackson turned up.

Of course, names changed, either deliberately, or due to miss-spellings.  For the most part, during peace time, they all lived about 150 miles East of where I live now.  Despite random appearances in various other states, most of the records are in a very small area.

What am I missing?

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Re: Ancestry?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 07:51:59 pm »
Melanie works on ours and has traced us back several centuries.  It isnt easy and has taken many years.  She has shared it with others of our lineage and sometimes they provide that missing information.  Census records can be of help, tying 1 person to another.  That's how we found 3 family cemeteries of my family and living relatives I had never heard of.  All about 30 miles from me.  It started by asking questions of people in the area where my Dad was born.  We previously only knew as far back as his Father.  We wanted to find as much on me because I am now the oldest living member of my branch of the tree. 

The problem with online ancestry sites is there's no way to print or save to file and if you don't share, you're the only one to see some of the info.
There are three kinds of men:

1.    The ones that learn by reading.
2.    The few who learn by observation.
3.    The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves.    Will Rogers

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Re: Ancestry?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 09:35:04 pm »
We've been working on ours since before I was born.  There were a few gaps, but it's been fairly regular.  Sadly, my nephew was the end of the line for a very old family line.

We've used census records.

We did find someone online with a lot of personal story info, when their tree fit into ours.

On my dad's side, we have back many hundreds of years.  That tree is filled out well.  My mother's side is filled out for 600 years on her mother's side.  We can only get about 200 years on her father's side.  If there weren't so many child deaths and siblings without children, it'd be easier.

Annoyingly, some things that were given to us as truths turned out to be wrong.  For example, we were told that one ancestor died at 110, and was 4 feet tall.  That ancestor died before she was 80.  We even got a picture of that gravestone.  We had to dig it up.

Then there are cases where there is a question about the parents.  One of my ancestors was taken by pirates.  She never said, but it could be mathematically possible that someone could've been fathered by a pirate.

How about when the parents name all their sons Charles?  We know 2 of the 6 ”Charles” died at or before birth.  What of the other 4?  They lived until at least 2 years of age.  18 years later, there is only 1.  The gravestone has only the date of death, with first and last name.

We found that a ”family name” was used for several generations, only there is no one prior to that with that name.

Then there was apparently an adoption.  No paperwork, but the child was 6 when picked up.  There is a name change.  Apparently, the child only had a first name, and took the adoptive parents' last name.

Lots of fun.  Really, for anyone who hasn't researched their family history, it's on par with any reality TV show, and drama.  There aren't all those glaring hollywood errors.  The lives and characters of the people, the challenges they had to overcome, the struggle to survive, etc.  We've found diaries.  Some of the relatives in the past were colorful people, who led colorful lives.