Fiero No Worky

[PK]

Paperclipped terminals A&G on ALDL ... pump doesn't run.

The fuel pump relay was coming out of its plastic housing...I thought I might be in to something but swapped relays over (pump&AC) and this made no difference. 

I would like to replace this relay anyway.... So here starts the shopping list!

[GTRS Fiero]

What was the audible click, if not the relay?

[GTRS Fiero]

Try from the ciggarette lighter to terminal G, as Fierofool suggested.  A is ground, and I had thought that was correct, but that does not make sense to me, right now.

[PK]

Click sounded like summat to do with auto cruise bellow thingy but not sure

[PK]

16ohms atwix tan/white wire at relay plug and earth

ALDL=ALCL

[PK]

Connector D and earth on relay plug gave me 51.22, 43.76, 32.44 ....... Volts.... hmmmmm.

Tried at fuse box with head wedged in footwell....more jibber jabber.

I then got bored of random readings and a general sense of uncomfortableness from the contortions and removed fuse box from its holder...ahh that's better.  With my head the right way up and access to the back of the board, I could see one  of the fuse pump terminals was loose in the box (is not attached to the plastic).  I reattached and tried ignition...still nothing...oh yeah best put relay back in ...and....whirrrrrr.  the fuel pump is back.  Wooohoooo. 

Didn't have time to check if it runs but am sure that's at least diagnosis done.

Now to find a way of holding the terminal in the fuse box.  Else every time that fuse is removed it will not be possible to reconnect without removing the fusebox.

Thanks for suggestions.

[Fierofool]

JB Weld, if you have it available in the UK.  But really, there should be a tang that holds it in place.  Maybe pull it out the back and spread it slightly.

[PK]

Good plan FF.  JB not so easy to find but plenty of equivalents like "gorilla weld".

Ahh yes, seems there is a security tang, mayhaps that needs tweaking rather than damage to the fuse box plastic.

Hoping for some time tomorrow to get everything back together!

[Fierofool]

Something to consider.  The tang may have pulled plastic from the area where it's supposed to latch.  Try rotating the terminal 180 degrees and see if it will hold.  Springing it open might cause a poor connection between the terminal and the fuse terminal.  That could generate a lot of heat due to resistance.  That was a problem we had on a Honda Civic we once owned.  The heat generated would melt the fuse element, but before the fuse would blow, it was melting the plastic of the fuse block. 

[PK]

That's a perfect description of what has happened FF.

I plan on squeezing the terminal by the fuse blades to make sure there is a good connection. Then will open up the security bit to try and seat it back in the plastic housing.  If that fails I will epoxy it in place.

[PK]

To conclude....FIERO WORKY (again).

The security tabs on the loose fuse box wire were non existent so I bent out some new ones and it seated nicely.

The relay needed returning to its housing.  I found a new air filter, so that went in while that area was in bits.

Unfortunately that's about all the spare time I have this year so Dangermouse will probably go into hibernation until next year.

Ta again for help.

[GTRS Fiero]

Just be aware that cars tend to develop issues while hibernating.

[PK]

Luckily not as many as cars that are used on our salt covered winter roads. 

Dangermouse now nicely tucked in its humidity controlled palace. :0)

 

[PK]

...Dangermouse needed to be removed from humidity controlled palace for first time since last post.  So palace could be ermmm carpeted!  Spoilt or what!  Even has underlay.

And click...vroom, started straight up!

[GTRS Fiero]

Awesome!