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Author Topic: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"  (Read 40657 times)

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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #270 on: April 21, 2021, 10:14:44 pm »
Did the drivetrain feel loose?
It felt just fine.
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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #271 on: April 21, 2021, 10:46:06 pm »
No extra movement of the engine?

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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #272 on: April 22, 2021, 08:22:03 am »
The loose parts may have contributed to cabin noise. I'll find out when I get it back together.
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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #273 on: April 22, 2021, 08:25:45 am »
If they were loose, all motor and transmission mounts are suspect.  Are those part of the "extra hardware"?

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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #274 on: April 22, 2021, 07:54:28 pm »
She's back in the saddle cradle again, with the "new" transmission.


Here's a tip for installing a transmission onto an engine. Get a couple of bolts of the right diameter, but too long, and use them as guides while moving the transmission into place. Then replace them with the proper bolts.

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« Reply #275 on: April 22, 2021, 07:58:09 pm »
Looking good Pat

A variation of the long bolt trick is to cut the head off then cut a screwdriver slot in the shank. Those are handy to line up all sorts of things, especially if the parts have gasket between them.

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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #276 on: April 22, 2021, 08:04:50 pm »
Cool.

Will you treat the rust on the knuckles, replace the struts, and treat the rust on the strut hats, whole everything is out?

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« Reply #277 on: April 22, 2021, 08:40:54 pm »
Will you treat the rust on the knuckles, replace the struts, and treat the rust on the strut hats, whole everything is out?
No, no, and no. The struts are fine, and there's hardly any rust on those parts.
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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #278 on: April 25, 2021, 08:19:00 pm »
Since my last report, I put the exhaust back together, using shiny new hardware where appropriate. And since part of the exhaust is a bit too close for comfort to some wires, a vacuum line, and a coolant hose, I added a little protection. I also put the throttle body back on, using a new Felpro gasket.


The new axle turned out to be too long. The difference is more than you see in the previous comparison picture. The tripot of the new one is almost completely compressed, while on the old one, it's not. I would have to shorten the shaft more than an inch to make it fit, so I put a split boot on the old one.

I may be able to put this thing back in the car tomorrow.
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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #279 on: April 25, 2021, 08:26:45 pm »
Hmmm.  Surprised on the length, but I ordered 2 sets of the same parts, and the first set had the wrong splines.

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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #280 on: April 26, 2021, 09:19:27 pm »
My cradle, with the engine and transmission attached, is back in the car. Nothing is hooked up yet, but the trickiest part is done.
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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #281 on: April 26, 2021, 09:25:03 pm »
Glad you're making progress.

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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #282 on: April 26, 2021, 09:26:15 pm »
Question, based on a prior post.  If you had installed an axle that was, say, half an inch too long, what would happen?

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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #283 on: April 26, 2021, 09:35:17 pm »
The tripot would bottom out, and the axle would be damaged.
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Re: The New Life of the 3800 "Formula"
« Reply #284 on: April 26, 2021, 09:38:05 pm »
Would the car shake, if under load?