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How to tell the former service of your pilot
« on: October 02, 2019, 09:48:24 pm »
This is not mine, but it's funny. How can you tell if the pilot of the commercial airliner you are on is an Air Force pilot, or a Navy/Marine pilot?

When the pilot lands does the aircraft “squeak” onto the runway, so smoothly you can barely tell it has landed? If so the plane is being flown by an Air Force pilot.

However, if the aircraft, on short final, has the engines screaming then SLAMS into the ground with MASSIVE braking following the harrowing “arrival” then you can bet your (now painful) behind it’s a Navy/Marine pilot doing the landing.
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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2019, 09:53:11 pm »
In that case, I flew into Germany in a plane piloted by a former Navy pilot.  The plane continued on, after refueling, and landed in Singapore, where the landing gear on the 777 collapsed on landing.

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2019, 04:22:22 pm »
The Navy or Marine pilot is trained to land on an aircraft carrier. Upon initial approach, the carrier looks about the size of a postage stamp floating on the water. The pilot not only has to hit that, but a specific part of it -- the part where the arresting cables are. When the plane contacts the deck, the pilot has to give it full throttle in case the tail hook misses one of the cables (there are usually 4 of them).
When I was in the Navy on the USS Ranger, my rack was right under the flight deck, near the rear of the ship. During night operations, I could hear those planes hit the deck hard. I got to where I could tell what kind of plane was landing by the sound. The F4's would hit the hardest due to their stubby wings. Upon final approach, I could hear that the pilot was using the throttle to control the plane (the sound of the jet constantly changing). So the sound that rocked me to sleep would be an increasing, constantly changing jet engine sound followed by a thud as the plane hit the deck, followed a few minutes later with a repeat of the same.

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2019, 09:26:07 pm »
What always amazed me was the Air Boss telling the pilots which wire to hit on landing..... 90% of the time they did

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2019, 09:30:58 pm »
What, you aren't supposed to hit the #3 wire?

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2019, 09:32:21 pm »
What did it sound like when a COD landed?

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 09:54:08 pm »
What did it sound like when a COD landed?
They actually landed gently. They had big wings with plenty of lift.
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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2019, 09:58:10 pm »
Hmmm.  Takeoff was fun.

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2019, 10:09:53 pm »
I could tell when an F14 landed.... they were quite heavy

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 07:51:56 am »
No F14's when I was in.
We lost one COD with all hands during my tour. There had been a shipboard fire, which destroyed one of the ship's electric generators. They loaded it onto a COD to send it to the Subic Bay Navy base (Philippines) for repair. It wasn't secured properly, and shifted when the cat launched. The plane went tail first into the water as soon as it left the cat, and the ship, doing at least 30 knots, ran over it. The whole fleet of COD's was grounded for a while after that, and they had to use aging piston powered C1's for cargo delivery for a while.
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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 01:03:55 pm »
Navy C2 Carrier Onboard Delivery (COD) aircraft


Navy C1 aircraft

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 02:38:11 pm »
When I was in the Navy. I was on a guided missle Friget.  When in to Gulf we were used as a turning point for the pilots.   We were behind the carriers, and we were used as a turning point on their  approach to the carrier.  And I heard that it was not called landing....It was a controlled crash.......

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 04:41:28 pm »
I do not understand why they changed the order of the words.  The actual thing is an On-Carrier Delivery.

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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 05:07:52 pm »
I do not understand why they changed the order of the words.  The actual thing is an On-Carrier Delivery.
Who wants to call an aircraft OCD?
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Re: How to tell the former service of your pilot
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 05:39:09 pm »
Then they should have used a different acronym.