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Author Topic: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich  (Read 31028 times)

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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2020, 07:21:38 am »
Does anyone have a gauge cluster available for sale? I don't need the faces or anything I just need the white part on the back with the circuitry. I plan to reuse all the gauges and the odometer. The check engine light will not work so I am trying to fix that so I can find out if I am throwing any codes.
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2020, 07:22:34 am »
Attention top notch. I was made aware you may have gauge cluster parts?
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2020, 08:07:07 am »
Do you know if the white part in duke gauges is the same?
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2020, 08:42:16 am »
I have no idea . I'm a nubie at fieros lol. . My car is a 87 se 2.8 I can get pictures when I get home if that helps
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2020, 12:02:05 pm »
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/d/cincinnati-1986-fiero/7094859210.html

I am going to check this car out tonight and hopefully get a gauge cluster. Also the car is for sale no title but they can provide a bill of sale it is from a auto repair center. He is asking 350 bucks for the whole car if anyone would like to save this thing from the junkyard. If I get there tonight I will take some pictures and try to post them.
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2020, 12:02:34 pm »
Also feel free to repost this in a more appropriate section of the website
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2020, 02:44:41 pm »
I believe the clusters are the same.  Only difference is the gauges.  All the sensor feeds go to the same gauges.  Just remove the gauges from your current panel and plug them into the replacement panel. 
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2020, 05:00:00 pm »
Looks like none of the usual recalls were done on that car.
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2020, 06:27:33 pm »
Maybe just a sloppy job on the recalls.  Wouldn't be the first such.

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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2020, 09:52:09 pm »
The deck seal is still there, and the old air intake tube is there, so those recalls weren't done, that's for sure.
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2020, 10:00:54 pm »
All the Fieros I've owned still had the old tube, despite having the new tube.  In one Fiero, a hole had been cut in the intake snorkel, and the new breather tube was literally duct-taped in place.  My current Fiero had the  hole in the air filter housing was wide open.  I've seen many Fieros on which the recall was "done", but you could hardly tell.  In general, I've found that the recalls were done as sloppily as they thought they could get away with.

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« Reply #86 on: March 20, 2020, 07:22:08 am »
I was referring to the big tube between the air filter and the throttle body, not the crankcase breather system.
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2020, 07:26:48 am »
Yes, mine had had a hole cut in that tube, rather than the tube replaced.

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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #88 on: March 20, 2020, 08:53:55 am »
................................................In general, I've found that the recalls were done as sloppily as they thought they could get away with.

When I bought my first Fiero in 93, I soon learned of the recalls.  I took it in to have the engine fire and brake recalls performed.  I don't know what they did on the brakes, but later, when I was doing an oil change, I didn't see any heat shield that I'd read about. 

I was talking with a relative in Nashville that worked for a Cadillac dealer.  He mailed the heat shield TSB to me and sure enough the shields weren't there on the engine.  Only the decklid strip had been removed.  I took the car back and when I got it back, shields had been installed.

When driving, I kept hearing a metallic rattle.  One day, I was into the engine compartment and found that the front manifold shield had not been properly installed.  It was just hung over the top of the exhaust manifold, rather than bolting it in.  Other shields had been modified so that they could be installed, though improperly installed. 

At that time, they also lifted the car, using a floor jack underneath the oil pan.  It left a very identifiable pattern in the indentation.  It didn't affect the runability, and of course the dealer denied any responsibility. 
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Re: 3.4 swap runs but sputters smooths out then dies smells very rich
« Reply #89 on: March 22, 2020, 04:31:28 pm »
Attention top notch. I was made aware you may have gauge cluster parts?
There's a complete early duke gauge cluster in the barn. Early because it has a battery gauge below the tach, not an oil gauge.
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