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Author Topic: Charlies 86 SE  (Read 28567 times)

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #120 on: June 08, 2020, 09:15:34 pm »
I have seen that thread.

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #121 on: June 10, 2020, 07:12:24 pm »
Clutch with new flywheel installed, motor bolted to transmission. I didn't think to mark out which were studs and which were bolts on the bellhousing. Oops. Anyone know?

Bushings have been replaced. The fronts were a bit overdue, they turned to powder.

Started laying out the wiring harness. .

Been thinking about the cradle bolt repair, I haven't had time to make a bolt plate. I think we should use a new nut and bolt like what was there.

Charlie is going to meet Friday afternoon, i plan on having all of the accessories back on so the group can reinstall everything Saturday.

Will need Mark and Zack to finish the battery tray repair beforehand.

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #122 on: June 10, 2020, 07:42:26 pm »
Great to read the progress.  Yeah, hindsight is..an annoying thing.  Pictures.

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #123 on: June 11, 2020, 01:31:03 pm »
This is Rodney Dickman's weld in cradle solution:


Just a plate with two nuts stacked and welded.

here is his floating solution that I have for mine:


I see no reason why we couldn't just develop a solution similar to the weld-in ones...  just chemically strip the zinc from some nuts and weld it all up with the bolt installed prior to 'installation' to mitigate any warp.

What time are we meeting Saturday?


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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #124 on: June 11, 2020, 02:33:41 pm »
I did something similar to Rodney's first solution shown on my yellow car. I welded a single nut to a piece of steel and stuck it in the cradle mount. It's not welded there, but it's too big to turn around, so once I got the bolt started, it was easy to tighten up.
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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #125 on: June 11, 2020, 03:57:48 pm »
Mark, we're planning 10-ish for the meeting.  and thanks for the Rodney link.  I just found them about an hour ago, but too late to have them there in time for Saturday's meeting.

Pat, I had been thinking along that line, too.  After giving some thought to what would keep the bolts from loosening in our original idea of a threaded plate, I thought of welding capture nuts onto the plate.  The frame is higher than wide, so a plate could be cut longer than the width and almost as wide.  Turn it on edge and slide it into the window cut in the side of the rail then lay it down.  It wouldn't even need to be welded in. 

Maybe we can get the cradle in with just 3 bolts temporarily then do the final solution later. 
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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #126 on: June 11, 2020, 07:11:16 pm »

Maybe we can get the cradle in with just 3 bolts temporarily then do the final solution later.

For what it's worth... If you remove the rear bumper cover, "waffle", and impact bar, the rear of the frame rail is open to the world. If you want to slide something in from the back, that's always an option. May not be useful in this case, but it's there, nonetheless.
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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #127 on: June 11, 2020, 08:09:37 pm »

Maybe we can get the cradle in with just 3 bolts temporarily then do the final solution later.

For what it's worth... If you remove the rear bumper cover, "waffle", and impact bar, the rear of the frame rail is open to the world. If you want to slide something in from the back, that's always an option. May not be useful in this case, but it's there, nonetheless.

With the car on lift I think you can get in to the frame without removing anything

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2020, 08:39:40 pm »
There's a window already cut in the left rail.  It had to be done to get the nut and remaining portion of the bolt out. 

I've ordered the non-floaters from Rodney.  They won't be in until early next week.  Like Scott said, cheaper to buy than build. 
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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2020, 08:42:52 pm »
Are you just going to add the last one, later?

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #130 on: June 12, 2020, 07:19:18 am »
Yes.  The car won't be driven until the last bolt is in place.  This is just to clear shop space so we can get on to Scott's Formula and other projects.
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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #131 on: June 12, 2020, 07:46:56 am »
It's awesome the club is able to do these things.

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #132 on: June 12, 2020, 11:18:18 am »
It's awesome the club is able to do these things.

Indeed it is.. I would gladly pay extra on dues for the club to utilize the shop for meetings, tech sessions etc...even if I never use it for my fiero(s).  I'm sure there are lot's of logistical issues for the club to use/rent it in an official capacity... but maybe worthy of a discussion during the meeting?
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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #133 on: June 12, 2020, 01:14:20 pm »
Ummmmmm...... i don't mind a bit while the world has gone nuts, but technically the shop is not mine to be renting out

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Re: Charlies 86 SE
« Reply #134 on: June 12, 2020, 02:01:00 pm »
Ummmmmm...... i don't mind a bit while the world has gone nuts, but technically the shop is not mine to be renting out

Yes I remember the situation... I meant the rent/funds would go to the owner if they so chose to do so... :)