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Author Topic: Fall 2020 color tour?  (Read 17125 times)

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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2020, 07:51:09 am »
I don't know who it was, but there was one that was so weak and the voice quality was so bad that I couldn't tell who it was. 
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1.    The ones that learn by reading.
2.    The few who learn by observation.
3.    The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves.    Will Rogers

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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2020, 09:24:20 am »
I couldn't tell whom anyone was.

At one point, you said something about someone dozing at the stops.  Someone replied.  When I found my radio, I responded something to the effect that I figured you were referring to me.  You never confirmed, so maybe it was my radio.

On the other hand, Wreck-It Ralph was in the back.  At one point, I asked him a direct question, and he replied.

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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2020, 10:00:53 am »
Each channel has sub channels.  If 2 radios are close to one another but not on the same subset, they will bleed over.  We generally use Channel 7, subset 0.  That may have been the problem. 

I was the one who referred to your taking a nap at each stoplight. 
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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2020, 10:02:29 am »
I knew it was you.  Since I specifically replied, I thought maybe you could identify if mine was the radio with poor quality.

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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2020, 10:18:03 am »
Any idea how to check the sub set?
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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2020, 10:26:48 am »
Mine just has a frequency.

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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2020, 10:34:17 am »
My radios will display the subset either after or just below the channel.  I don't remember which, but it does show it. 
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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2020, 04:41:18 pm »
Mine just has the frequency but it has privacy channels???
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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2020, 08:51:29 pm »
Mine just has the frequency but it has privacy channels???

Okay... Get ready for the geek-speak.
Frequencies are just that. Frequencies. Like on your FM radio. 95.5,  97.1, etc. Our frequencies are in the 460 MHz UHF band. 462.525, 462.550, 462.575, etc. (Those are not the exact frequencies, but you get the idea. If anyone wants the exact frequencies, I can dig them up. I've actually programmed a couple of salvaged walkie-talkies for FRS channels, for a friend of mine.)  But they're mostly all set up the same. Ch1 on a Motorola radio is Ch1 on a Midland radio, and is also Ch1 on a Kenwood radio, etc. (There are a very few exceptions, but mentioning them here will just be confusing.)

Sub-channels are not actually channels. Here's how they work...
A sub-audible (low frequency) tone - or sometimes a digital code - is transmitted along with the radio signal. Receivers set to that same sub channel will decode that tone, or code, and open up to let the transmitted audio through. Radios set to a different sub channel will sit there, and not make a peep. This is so you don't have to listen to other peoples' conversations.
What must be remembered, is that if someone is on your frequency, but using a different sub-channel, THE CHANNEL IS STILL IN USE, AND IS UNAVAILABLE FOR YOUR TRAFFIC.  That's what the "monitor" button is for. Press it to make sure that nobody is using the channel, before transmitting.

Now... using sub-channel 0 effectively eliminates ALL sub-channel protocols. (In radio jargon, it's called "carrier squelch".) It's kind of like an "all-call". If there is a signal present on your main frequency, on ANY sub-channel, you will hear it. 
Since we frequently use these radios waaay out in the sticks, and there are (hopefully) not a lot of other people using them, on the came channel, I find this to be the most foolproof method. We'll hear anything that's on the channel (which is fairly unlikely) but we'll also hear each other, without a lot of confusion.

Oh yeah... if you've got an old police scanner that receives UHF (which most of them do) they can be programmed for the FRS channels. No problem.

Another edit - As far as the sub-channels...
Motorola calls the technology "Private Line" or just "PL". The newer version - with the digital code - is called "Digital Private Line" or (you guessed it) "DPL".
Which is all probably TMI.
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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2020, 04:49:19 pm »
That makes sense now. But where does the flux capacitor fit in all with this?
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Re: Fall 2020 color tour?
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2020, 04:54:27 pm »
It generates the 1.21 gigawatts of power required to send the signal the distance, after escaping the vortex created by the vehicle's 88 MPH velocity.  But it only works in DeLoreans.