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Spartanzz

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87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« on: July 04, 2021, 05:53:23 pm »
I was recently given an opportunity to pickup a 1987 Fiero GT that has been sitting for around 8 years (estimated). The previous owner decided to attempt a 3.4 swap on the car but was never able to finish it. He needed the car gone due to county rules of it sitting in his driveway. So, he offered it to me for free!

I went out one weekend to get the cradle placed back in the car (without the engine) in order to get the car good enough to drag up onto a trailer in order to get it into my garage. We were successful in the endeavor despite a few roadblock. And now, the Fiero sit happily in my garage with all of the spare parts, besides the rear bumper and original 2.8 engine block. The last few parts I will pickup once I get everything else organized and find a place for them.

The 3.4 block has been rebuilt already so its a matter of getting everything put back together and put it in (maybe)

The paint is shot, the suspense needs work and one of the stud studs is stripped. One cradle bolt capture nut came off making it impossible for me to get the cradle out, so I will be getting the Rodney Dickman kit to make the rear cradle bolts much better. Just need to figure out a solution for the stripped store mount bolt.



So, the plans for the car is to:
1. tear everything down and replace everything old with new and to restore any parts that cannot be replaced
2. upgrade and update everything I can. Suspens, breaks, interior items such as radios gauges so on and so forth.
3. Perform and engine swap to finish the 3.4 swap. I am debating on either 3800SC with an F40 or F23, or doing a Honda k24 swap. Still very undecided but I want 100% reliability, between 300-400 HP, and ease of finding replacement parts.
4. Get the body panels repaired and painted. Thinking about going with the Gold color the Fiero came with (since I used to own one in that exact color) with a twist to it (going to work with my paint guy to thing of something neat)


So that's where I stand right now. I am going to need some insight on breaks, suspension, wheels, interior, and engine upgrades. I am trying to keep the car overall stock looking (because I love the look of the Fiero completely stock. But wheels HAVE to be upgraded for better tire choices, looks, and overall better performance.

More will follow as I start doing some work on it! Any advice/info on the upgrades or restoration tip is greatly appreciated!

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2021, 06:14:53 pm »
So are you going to finish the 3.4 first, and then go to a bigger engine, or start with bigger right away?
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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2021, 06:16:37 pm »
So are you going to finish the 3.4 first, and then go to a bigger engine, or start with bigger right away?

This is the exact question I am attempting to answer lol

I figure I have time because I was to at least get the interior form out and replaced and restored. Maybe the body as well but we will see how everything progresses.

I keep going back and forth about just finishing up the 3.4 since it will be relatively to get all that going but idk

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2021, 06:19:08 pm »
also, how exactly do I upload pics?

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2021, 06:28:47 pm »
You could try using PIP. See this thread.
Or you can attach pictures. Click on "Attachments and other options" below the box where you are typing your message.
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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2021, 08:57:55 pm »
Pics!

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2021, 08:58:23 pm »
more pic

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2021, 09:25:54 pm »
Great project!

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2021, 09:29:30 pm »
Great project!

Thanks! im super excited to get started working on it. First thing is to get the Rodney Dickman rear cradle bolt repair kit. One of the captured nuts came loose when trying to take it out. Then i gatta figure out what to do with a stripped Strut stud :(

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2021, 10:02:56 pm »
Hah! It was you, who posted on FB.
I'm happy that you got it stored safely.

... Then i gatta figure out what to do with a stripped Strut stud :(

Are you talking about one of the three, at the top of the shock tower?
They're part of the plate that bolts to the top of the strut assembly.
Since every 84-87 Fiero ever made had one of those plates on each side, I have to believe they are not too difficult to source.
If you go with coilovers, I believe you can scrap that entire plate, as the coilover strut will have its own plate.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2021, 10:37:20 pm »
Hah! It was you, who posted on FB.
I'm happy that you got it stored safely.

... Then i gatta figure out what to do with a stripped Strut stud :(

Are you talking about one of the three, at the top of the shock tower?
They're part of the plate that bolts to the top of the strut assembly.
Since every 84-87 Fiero ever made had one of those plates on each side, I have to believe they are not too difficult to source.
If you go with coilovers, I believe you can scrap that entire plate, as the coilover strut will have its own plate.

I attached a pic of what im talking about. its the actual stud. Its stripped so i cant get the nut off of the stud....and i believe they are welded in.

I was thinking about going coilovers so that i can run a wider wheel and tire. But the real question is where can i source a set?

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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2021, 10:56:26 pm »
If you go with coilovers, Fieroguru offers a set, in a bunch of different "levels" of assembly, and options. 
https://fieroguruperformance.com/?page_id=267  (Scroll down just a bit.)

And yeah... that stud is pressed and staked into the plate, at the top of the strut. (At least it is on the 88s.)
Just use a long bar and break it off.

This is what mine looked like, out of the car. (Slightly modified and flipped over.)



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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2021, 11:00:41 pm »
Oh cool! yeah ill probably look into ordering a set of those from here....but how do I order something from him? don't see the way to do so.

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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2021, 07:28:45 am »
Since it's stripped, you're going to have to replace it.  Just take a grinder and grind it off.  Scott may have one from the parts car we stripped.  I know the struts are there.  Maybe the rings, too. 
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Re: 87 GT restoration, update, upgrade, and swap
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2021, 08:43:33 am »
If you go with coilovers, Fieroguru offers a set, in a bunch of different "levels" of assembly, and options. 
https://fieroguruperformance.com/?page_id=267  (Scroll down just a bit.)

And yeah... that stud is pressed and staked into the plate, at the top of the strut. (At least it is on the 88s.)
Just use a long bar and break it off.

This is what mine looked like, out of the car. (Slightly modified and flipped over.)



Did you zip-tie the bolts in place?