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jwrape

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New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« on: April 15, 2011, 02:28:59 pm »
I live near Athens, in a little town called Monroe. I bought this to build a electric car and decided to hold off and just restore it since it gets in the 30 mpg range.
Here it is:









Not too bad for $400. needs a little work since it's been sitting since 2006. The guy said he had a shade tree mechanic work on it and it stopped running
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 02:41:14 pm »
Welcome to the forum jwrape!
If you need any help with the restore, just post it here - plent of Fiero experts an people willing to help

How's the interior on it?

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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 04:13:43 pm »
I have parts for that car. Don't forget to check them out while your up here in...Athens.
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 12:19:40 am »
welcome jwrape. I also found a deal on an 87 that was sitting since 07! I was gonna slowly build mine up with a v8, but then decided just to make it a daily driver and could not have done it without the people in this club! I bought mine in November for less than a tank of gas in my truck and here are a few pics of the day i brought mine home........Gonna snap a few "now" shots this weekendenjoy your ride!

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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2011, 06:33:41 am »
Wow! I like the blue. Looks about the same condition over all as mine. My seats are in pretty good shape with the exception of the bottom left lumbar about 4 inches long. I could get away with those nice seat covers they make, I forget the guy that makes them. They are about $250 for the pair, but they fit nice and tight on our Recaro looking seats.
My interior doesn't need to much.

The main thing is that I have small wiring issues, mainly fusable links at the starter are blown and there are two sensors wired crazy with couplers instead of soldiered and shrink wrapped properly.

I plan to try to find a 85 GT nose if possible and I want either no spoiler or that nice whale tail spoiler like this one


When I bought the car from this older guy, he said his son drove it till 06' after a Shade Tree Mechanic worked on it and it stopped running.

« Last Edit: April 16, 2011, 06:41:11 am by jwrape »
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 06:39:14 am »
Motor still will turn over, but with the fusable links bad, there is no power to the car unless you bypass the main Positive cable from the battery (or jumper box) to the positive lug on a solenoid on the passenger side firewall beside the rear strut tower. Then I can turn on the key and all the lights etc. work but of course it still won't spin the motor without power to the starter. Also I found the headlights will light up but won't lift up.
I also found that one of the reasons it wouldn't run well, the reason for the shade tree mechanic, was that the plug had rusted in half and I found this plug hanging in the end of the wire laying on the front of the motor.

It should be interesting to drill out the rest of the broken plug and ALSO see if the other plugs will come out in one piece. I pray.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2011, 07:36:04 am by jwrape »
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2011, 06:46:53 am »
Oh yea, thank you for all the warm welcome guys. I love taking pictures as I work on things so I will be loading up my threads as i go. It's handy that I have my camera phone and lots of time at work to play on the forums too.

I think the first things I will focus on are getting it running then i will do the Grand Am brake conversion.
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 08:36:08 am »
That's a nice find, Jason.  It may be a little better find than you think.  Even though the interior looks to be 84, the nose badge says 85 or later and so does the rear deck lid. 

The 84 had a gold nose badge rather than silver, and the rear deck lid had the grill in the center and didn't have the hump.  The decklid you have didn't appear until 85.  Have you done a CarFAx on the VIN? 

Given your abilities, Just go ahead and drop in a 3.4 and be rid of all the problems that came with it. 
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 08:42:55 am »
I want to eventually drop the 3800sc in it. But I figure I will restore what I have first and get it to near perfect for DD and then buy another cradle and a 3800sc and build it while I drive it and then install it.

My normal DD is a 05' G35 coupe but it only gets 20mpg and with prices so high lately. I hate throwing my parts money into my gas tank, and it keeps my mind working on something entertaining.

trust me, I will get around to the 3800sc swap soon. It may be this Fiero or it may be another.

My uncle has a 88 GT with leather and all the extras that he slightly wrecked and twisted the body. It's all in good shape with no visual damage but it twisted the sunroof out and has been sitting for about 6-7 years. I might get that one from him. I have always liked it, but it needs the body fixed and I'm not sure that's even possible with these things.
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 08:50:19 am »
That's a nice find, Jason.  It may be a little better find than you think.  Even though the interior looks to be 84, the nose badge says 85 or later and so does the rear deck lid. 

The 84 had a gold nose badge rather than silver, and the rear deck lid had the grill in the center and didn't have the hump.  The decklid you have didn't appear until 85.  Have you done a CarFAx on the VIN? 

Given your abilities, Just go ahead and drop in a 3.4 and be rid of all the problems that came with it. 

What's better between a 84' and 85'?

It very well could be a 85', I really didn't look at the title, I just took his word for it. He might have been incorrect. The car belonged to his son and he had repo'd it from him for some money his son owned him and then parked it in a barn for most of the sitting time and then eventually puled it out into the yard to sell.
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2011, 09:12:50 am »
The 85 with the gray interior had a two tone dash with the lower half being a lighter color commonly called Dove Gray.  It matched the vinyl of the door panel, the rear most portion of the console, and the interior hard vinyl trim.  I believe the 84 had the same interior color combination, though you do have the elastic map holder that was common only to the 84.  85's had a pocket. 

The wiring system was much better on the 85's and easier to do a conversion.  You also mentioned that the harness attached between the battery and passenger shock tower.  The 84 attached to the back of the passenger compartment.  The 84 also had glass quarter windows.  Later years were plastic. 

The 84 had some features of the electrical system that were common only to it.  It had a 2 speed cooling fan identified by a 3 wire harness, the AC system was different, I believe the wiper system was different, and there were some other differences. 
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2011, 09:16:49 am »

Wow! And that was all off the top of your head.... That's a mouth full.  ;D
It does have the two tone interior but it also has the stretchy map pocket although I just bought the newer pocket to replace the stretched out pocket. It almost sounds like I'm kinda between a 84 and a 85. Who knows. I need to look at the title again.
The title is out in my G35, i will look at it at lunch and see what year the title says.
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2011, 09:18:38 am »
Oh, I know that the driver seat is a GT seat with the speakers in it and the passenger side is a normal seat without the speakers in it. I think the passenger side is the original. I know the drivers isn't of course.
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2011, 09:25:09 am »
It could be that you've got a hybrid.  84 and 85 had the speakers in the headrest.  So, the passenger seat has been swapped out.  It could be that other parts have been swapped out, too.  That's one of the nice things about Fieros.
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Re: New here, bought a 84' 2m4
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2011, 09:29:09 am »
If you have the VIN number, run it though this VIN decoder:
http://gafiero.org/vin.shtml
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