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Author Topic: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles  (Read 58885 times)

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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2011, 09:57:18 pm »
I've been getting it at Advance on the club account.  I heard that the price has recently gone up, wherever you get it.  Get 1 can of 134 with stop leak and 2 regular 134's.  The offer stands. 

What would I ever do without Charlie's help?? Ice cold air blowing now, fun to drive -- Tybee Island here we come! ;D

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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2011, 06:30:00 am »
Weird thing... Drove the car next door and when I went to leave the car would turn over but wouldn't start. I kept turning off and on until it finally stumbled and started. I thought, ok that's weird.

The next day it did the same thing.

It keeps doing that now. When i go to start it, sometimes it starts perfectly sometimes I have to keep trying it over and over.
Usually it starts perfectly.
I swapped out the relay for a known good relay. Still does it.

It's sounding like the fuel pump is going out.
I drove the Infiniti to work today and will be replacing the fuel pump soon.
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2011, 08:37:35 am »
Have you replaced the ignition module?  If not, a failing module can cause the symptoms.  I had one that failed just before we were entering the St. Patrick's day parade.  It wouldn't crank with the starter,a but we could roll it and bump start it.  A weak ignition coil can also give the same symptoms.

If you haven't gotten a spare ignition module to keep in the trunk, you should.  It's a common failure point.  Advance or AutoZone for under $40 with a lifetime warranty. 
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #63 on: June 01, 2011, 09:56:00 am »
The only reason I didn't think it was the ignition module is because when it would start it would spudder up as if it was gathering fuel and then once when it started, it ran for a second and then died as if it ran of the little fuel that was in the line.
I do need to replace it to be certain though. I feel if I replace all the good stuff, it won't fail again for a while and I can have piece of mind about driving it long distances. I ALMOST drove it to Alabama over the weekend. I'm glad I didn't.
I have already ordered the fuel pump for $22. Same one I bought for the Sport a while ago. I will change the ignition module out first since it's easier and go from there. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #64 on: June 01, 2011, 11:54:43 am »
If the SE is a 4 cylinder, you shouldn't have ordered the same fuel pump for the GT, they are different and produce different pressure.
But just in case, somebody here on the forum should confirm what I am babbling about  ;D

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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #65 on: June 01, 2011, 12:00:54 pm »
Don's  right.  The 4 cylinder pump produces lower pressure and volume.  It won't work for the V6.  
Edit to add what you already know.  Go to NAPA and get the ethanol immersible hose to go inside the tank.
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2011, 12:18:41 pm »
I thought I ordered the right one, but I just went and verified that I did order the V6 2.8L version. All is well. I will have to stop at NAPA again. :-)
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2011, 06:31:13 am »
Alright, I have collected the A/C Compressor, and the mounts for it that I was missing. I have the slider mount still on the car from whom ever before me broke the aluminum bracket off.

(Thanks to Charlie for the brackets)

Here I mounted the Rear bracket onto my Reman'd Compressor and as you can see it doesn't quite line up for my aluminum mount to support the rear end of the compressor.






I wasn't about to give up there. I looked around in my bolt bins and found a piece of steel that I bent and vised till it fit perfectly to give the rear of the compressor support and not look to rigged. To me it almost look factory. :-) I don't know why it didn't line up originally, either there are multiple brackets made for the GT's (this one is from a 87' and mine is a 86') or the Reman'd compressor is a little different than factory. Either way it's fixed.





Edit: After looking at the pics, I am gonna replace the nut with a lock nut and cut off the excess bolt
« Last Edit: June 04, 2011, 06:35:19 am by jwrape »
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #68 on: June 04, 2011, 06:31:40 am »
So now after looking at this pic and looking at the Haines Manual that I am in need of a High Pressure switch. I am wondering if that's a must or can I run without it. The name is kinda self evident but when would the pressure get too high to need to be cut off? Right now as you can see in the pics above I have both the holes in the back of the compressor closed off with caps. Also still wonder what the other plug snaps onto. Anyone got an idea?




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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2011, 08:33:32 am »
Two switches go in the back of the compressor where the plugs are. Or your your application, you only use one. In any case, you can get the switches at auto parts stores. I got some for the V5 compressor in my 88 duke at Advanced Auto. Look them up online first, and get the store's part no. It'll make it easier for the store personnel to find them.

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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2011, 08:35:46 am »
Two switches go in the back of the compressor where the plugs are. Or your your application, you only use one. In any case, you can get the switches at auto parts stores. I got some for the V5 compressor in my 88 duke at Advanced Auto. Look them up online first, and get the store's part no. It'll make it easier for the store personnel to find them.



Ok, cool. What does the little plug attach to on that harness with the high pressure plug? Looks like it slips onto a bolt.
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #71 on: June 05, 2011, 04:02:06 pm »
Jason, that is the right bracket.  The 85-87 mountings were identical.  Those brackets came from an 85 for the aluminum and 86 for the metal one.  I have the compressor that came from it if you want to borrow it for comparison.  It has both switches in it.  I think what happened is that they gave you a compressor that was clocked wrong or was for a 4 cylinder.  It happens a lot with the alternators, so I suppose that some of the compressors fit different applications, depending upon how the housings are clocked.  The Harrison compressor I have is clocked correct, so you can cross reference numbers to get the correct one.  We can also run Ray's 86 and my 87 up on ramps to compare and be sure.  

Believe me, you want that high pressure switch in place.  If the evaporator core gets plugged or the cycle switch fails, it can over-pressure.  That is the weak spot.  Better to have that pop out than blow unavailable parts elsewhere.  I've had one blow on my 87 when the orifice tube plugged up.  

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Here's the compressor that goes on there.  It's turned the same as your first picture.  Note the position of the front mounting ears at 3, 6, and 9 o'clock.  By mounting the metal bracket you got from me, it will line up with the 9 o'clock ear on the front. 
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2011, 06:14:41 am »
Yea, I kinda figured it might be a different compressor. It's no big deal. I got it to fit. I am still not done with the install, but I have it started. It's fun to maneuver around the exhaust to get that thing in there.
I should have it done on Wed.

I also have to remove the clutch from the AC compressor on my Infiniti to replace it. I have no idea what kinda of puller will get that off. I tried a pulley puller and it bent the pulley. NOT good. Luckily it's the broken pulley. But I have to take the old one off and the new one off the used Compressor I got. There must be a trick to it.
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #73 on: June 07, 2011, 07:49:08 am »
You'll probably need a special puller for the AC pulley.  Rather than buy one, the parts store may have a loaner or rental unit.  I believe you need a different tool or need to modify the puller to install the new pulley. 
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Re: Traded my BROKEN Zero Turn Mower for a 86GT w/ 92k miles
« Reply #74 on: June 07, 2011, 07:55:13 am »
Actually, I just read where it's best to replace the compressor with the clutch cause if the clutch gives out, the compressors not far behind. I am thinking I will bite the bullet and get it replaced all together. I will just have to take the G35 to the shop. The G35 has 160k miles on the body. The motor is new, but the appendages have 160k on them. The AC Compressor is prolly worn as well.

The Fiero will prolly have AC before the Infiniti. I could replace the compressor myself on the Infiniti BUT I have nothing to store the Freon in so I will have to have them do it. One more expense ya know. :-)

My compressor I just got in the mail has 50k miles on it. It should be a good one.
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